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Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by BigGreenJorts »

ziddoap wrote: post #24
huvarda wrote: post #21

I asked it to break down eating a pie, this is what I got: Choose a pie Gather necessary utensils (fork, plate, napkin) Place the pie on the plate Cut a slice of the pie Pick up the slice with the fork Bring the slice to your mouth Take a bite of the pie Chew and savor the flavor Repeat until finished Dispose of any leftovers responsibly Clean up the utensils and plate Maybe an absurd example but I feel like somethin…

You can adjust the spiciness level (level of detail) to the right of the prompt. At the lowest you get - Select a pie - Grab a fork or your hands - Take a piece of the pie - Bring it to your mouth - Chew and swallow the pie Still probably a bit much, but I think using a to-do list for eating a pie is also a bit much. I did "get a haircut" and it was a pretty good breakdown. Same with "Paint a room in my house". I thi…

> still probably a bit much

I think what's worse is that it still over detailed the steps but left out the actually additive steps of the OP's list which I would say is the bit about the getting/cleaning the dishes and trash

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by zerkten »

nonethewiser wrote: post #36
hombre_fatal wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open-ended prompting seems to go against your prescription of more curation. Also, I don't think most people want to think about LLM prompting. The tool should be prompting for me. I think they are going towards the right direction of how to use LLMs, not away from it. A "break down task into steps" would be a great feature for every todolist app.

>Open-ended prompting seems to go against your prescription of more curation Not at all. There is the selection mechanism and the universe of templates. Both can be greater in a system where there is user creation and voting. Otherwise we're saying Goblin.tools has searched and found the best templates possible. Seems unlikely. And even if true now you dont need Goblin.tools anymore because you have just recreate the…

A problem is that the proposed audience are individuals who struggle with options. Giving them more options doesn't help them. Enabling a power user mode with user creation, voting, etc. would be valuable for others. I suspect template sharing in some situations is problematic because getting great results for an audience can have text which some will find objectionable.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by ant_li0n »

throw80521 wrote: post #40
danesparza wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Fair warning, what will write only applies to my circumstance and I have no intention to denigrate the life experiences of others. I used to prescribe myself labels like ADHD. In fact I probably got into this habit at a very young age since people around me were already talking about labels and how they did or didn't apply to me, and I soaked all this up as children are wont to do. I no longer abide by such labels an…

Interesting. If it's not too personal, would you mind sharing what the "cause" turned out to be, and how you were able to discover it?

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by quibono »

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You lost track of what you were thinking about? Must be the ADHD. There are YouTube channels whose whole gimmick is that they're run by and for people with ADHD. And guess what kind of content you'll see there: "Why cooking with ADHD is hell", "How ADHD can make you lie", "Music for people with ADHD". What happened to "music for concentration"? HN is a place where I see this play out a lot.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by throw80521 »

ant_li0n wrote: post #43
throw80521 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair warning, what will write only applies to my circumstance and I have no intention to denigrate the life experiences of others. I used to prescribe myself labels like ADHD. In fact I probably got into this habit at a very young age since people around me were already talking about labels and how they did or didn't apply to me, and I soaked all this up as children are wont to do. I no longer abide by such labels an…

Interesting. If it's not too personal, would you mind sharing what the "cause" turned out to be, and how you were able to discover it?

Bit too personal for me to talk about sorry, but the therapy that worked was psybocilin (magic mushrooms) with a licensed counselor. Specifically a dosage of 5g taken in intervals + intensive guidance.

I can say that if I chose to remain too squeamish to ever try the "scheduled drugs" route, my life would have marched onward in an alternate timeline with little to no hope for recovery.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by y42 »

BaudouinVH wrote: post #13

I've ADHD and I'm on the spectrum. Others may differ - it's a spectrum after all- but I feel no list-only app will ever silence the drunk baboon on my shoulder constantly pulling my attention from what I'm doing. I'd advise goblin.tools to market itself differently and aim for the neurotypical market as well. #my2cents

I second that, I saw a lot, I tried some... most of them are just task planners, but I was always missing same basic features.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by 0000000000100 »

Pretty neat. The automatic breakdowns are cool, but you absolutely need to move the delete button inline. Confirm dialog if there are items beneath it, otherwise just delete.

Generated like 10 sub-items for me, 5 of which were relevant. But to remove the 5 junk ones, you have to open the dropdown for each and hit delete.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by bluedino »

quibono wrote: post #44

This could be overgeneralising a bit... but I see a lot of people with ADHD (on- and offline) who tend to make it an essential part of their identity. I realise it's a very impactful thing to have to deal with (I have ADHD too) but I feel like a lot of the time it's brought up for no real reason. E.g. you started daydreaming when reading a book? Forgot something to do when you walked through a doorway? Got angry? You…

Similar things exist for dyslexia, introverts, etc

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by sundarurfriend »

huvarda wrote: post #21

I asked it to break down eating a pie, this is what I got: Choose a pie Gather necessary utensils (fork, plate, napkin) Place the pie on the plate Cut a slice of the pie Pick up the slice with the fork Bring the slice to your mouth Take a bite of the pie Chew and savor the flavor Repeat until finished Dispose of any leftovers responsibly Clean up the utensils and plate Maybe an absurd example but I feel like somethin…

That sounds perfect to me. Often on low-spoons days, I'll ask ChatGPT to do exactly this, break down a task or recipe into the simplest, concrete steps to be taken. It's meant to be used when your mental energy is low enough that "obvious" things don't seem obvious anymore, and you need them broken down into a form that doesn't assume or ask anything of you.

It's like taking an old school BASIC program and modularising it into small self-contained functions. That may increase the lines of code by a lot, but it still makes it simpler and easier to process because you only need to keep one function in mind at a time.

Re: Goblin.tools: simple, single-task tools to help neurodivergent people with tasks

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Post by raybb »

I'd really love a voice based AI tool that will follow up with me on projects and next steps.

So like I'm renovating a house and I've got to find someone to help with drywall, get a new top of the septic, get quotes on the driveway, etc. Multiply this a few times with my job and side project and so on.

It would be great if it would just ask me what's new with each thing and update tasks and remind me to follow up with the person not calling me back etc. Of course, all this can be done in your mind or with Todo apps but just something to talk to and nudge would be great.

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