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Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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Dosen't the EU Data Act prhoibit egress costs?

No I don't think so. You have to able to take your own data out for free. But delivering it to everybody else can be charged. Edit: Not allowed to comment on your reply anymore. I read it as a confirmation of what I said. Charging for egress in general is allowed. Only the egress to take your own data elsewhere must be free.

Chapter VI: Switching between data processing services

The Data Act will also entirely remove switching charges, including charges for data egress (i.e. charges for data transit), from 12 January 2027. This means that providers won’t be able to charge their customers for the operations that are necessary to facilitate switching or for data egress. However, as a transitional measure during the first 3 years after the Data Act’s entry into force (from 11 January 2024 to 12 January 2027), providers may still charge their customers for the costs incurred in relation to switching and data egress.

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/data-act-...

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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The changes happening in US are not going anywhere, and they haven't even properly started with them. Nobody knows the future but one thing is clear and set in stone - trust has been broken. If you have any life or relationship experience, you know trust is always hard to build and easy to lose. Its extremely hard and lengthy to build again once it has been shattered (which it has been already). Stab in the back is r…

> trust has been broken By what? Tariffs? We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares. But now that trump is in office, we suddenly have an issue with the US? Ridiculous.

> We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares.

Nobody cares, because nobody really understands the consequences.

But now it's different. The US are threatening to invade and annex territories. Everybody understands what that means.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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post #17

The only reason you may use these EU version of services is that you are in Europe. Otherwise EU is worse in terms of privacy. UK (while not officially in Europe) goes even beyond, requiring backdooor to iCloud and non-eu providers.

> UK (while not officially in Europe)

You mean the EU. The UK is definitely in Europe

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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The only reason you may use these EU version of services is that you are in Europe. Otherwise EU is worse in terms of privacy. UK (while not officially in Europe) goes even beyond, requiring backdooor to iCloud and non-eu providers.

Yeah, I can hear the laughter all the way to Pine Gap.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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What they don't mention is that some of their data centers are delivered by Equinix, an American company, so it doesn't matter that it is in Finland (same with Sweden and Poland). It is inherently insecure if you are trying to get away from USA. https://upcloud.com/data-centers

One of the best "facility tours" i saw recently

(LTT - Equinix data center in Toronto )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wumluVRmxyA

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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> Enforcing Defamation laws is censhorship

This is up to the regime's definition of "defamation".

> You can use LLMs to search for events that happened

Depends on the "events" that have happened and the questions you ask. I'll leave it at that.

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