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Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

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post #25

> (GDPR) is the best-known European standard. After all, it’s hard to miss the opportunity to reject cookies on European websites. But there’s far more to data security. We should not be bragging about that "security", those cookie pop-ups are just a pointless annoyance. At least I guess we can all agree that there is far more to data security :-)

GDPR goes further than the cookies, though.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

#52
post #36
post #17

The only reason you may use these EU version of services is that you are in Europe. Otherwise EU is worse in terms of privacy. UK (while not officially in Europe) goes even beyond, requiring backdooor to iCloud and non-eu providers.

Thank you for pointing that out! I would add that intelligence agencies and law enforcement are almost completely exempt from all those fancy GDPR requirements. Furthermore, in the EU, there is no such a strong equivalent to the 4th Amendment. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies can access your cloud data without needing a warrant—unless the data is stored in the US in which case a US judge would have to approv…

Your comment needs some serious fact checking. For example, Encrochat backdoor was authorized by judge, so there was a due process. And it was not an ordinary customer.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

#54
post #32
post #21

This is missing the point. Everything they offer is storage, VPS, Load balancer, one managed key-value store and two managed databases. For the price a little higher than, say, Digital Ocean. But where is managed cache, message broker, e-mail service. It is not enough to be European, they need to offer something competitive. I guess they can win some clients, given current hostility of Europe against Trump, but what…

The changes happening in US are not going anywhere, and they haven't even properly started with them. Nobody knows the future but one thing is clear and set in stone - trust has been broken. If you have any life or relationship experience, you know trust is always hard to build and easy to lose. Its extremely hard and lengthy to build again once it has been shattered (which it has been already). Stab in the back is r…

We have a saying in Dutch. Trust leaves on horseback but comes back on foot.

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

#56
post #17

The only reason you may use these EU version of services is that you are in Europe. Otherwise EU is worse in terms of privacy. UK (while not officially in Europe) goes even beyond, requiring backdooor to iCloud and non-eu providers.

Many on here don't seem to understand this has nothing to do with privacy. It's about sovereignty - if DJT can turn off your digital infrastructure on a whim, you are in a very precarious position. That's why both Canada and Europe are in panic mode and looking for alternatives.

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#57
post #50
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dosen't the EU Data Act prhoibit egress costs?

No I don't think so. You have to able to take your own data out for free. But delivering it to everybody else can be charged. Edit: Not allowed to comment on your reply anymore. I read it as a confirmation of what I said. Charging for egress in general is allowed. Only the egress to take your own data elsewhere must be free.

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Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

#59
post #21

This is missing the point. Everything they offer is storage, VPS, Load balancer, one managed key-value store and two managed databases. For the price a little higher than, say, Digital Ocean. But where is managed cache, message broker, e-mail service. It is not enough to be European, they need to offer something competitive. I guess they can win some clients, given current hostility of Europe against Trump, but what…

> given current hostility of Europe against Trump

This is akin to Trump talking about the hostility of Ukraine against Russia. The US are the bullies here, not the other way round.

> but what if in two years Trump will be off the news, people would not care anymore about being anti_USA

Time will tell, but this is the first time in the life of all living Europeans that the US threatens them militarily. And many US citizens not only seem to not care, but they seem to find it okay (and even say that the Europeans are the ones being hostile to the US).

IMO, something has been broken this time. Europeans see the US as a national security concern. At this speed, this feeling will just get stronger in the next two years, and honestly I am not convinced that any results in two years could "just repair the damage" immediately. The trust has been broken now, it will take time to come back (assuming the US do come back from this).

Re: European Cloud, Global Reach

#60
Apologies in advance for the thread hijacking, but I wonder if there would be enough interest in a turn-key solution for a fully suite of open source SaaS alternatives, hosted in a European cloud (Hetzner and/or OVH).

The idea would be to take any existing commonly used service at a startup and set up the FOSS equivalent, unify them with SSO via OIDC and charge by the a flat rate based on the amount of resources.

I've already built something similar for social media platforms, so I think I would just have to expand my catalog to do it.

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