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Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Re: Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site. What trends are we seeing?

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Post by Sayrus »

immibis wrote: post #6

I wish I was for the life of me any good as a businessperson right now. No, developers are not good at business. There seems to be a huge opportunity here, since everything in the cloud computing category are plain old server hosts, nothing like "real clouds".

> There seems to be a huge opportunity here, since everything in the cloud computing category are plain old server hosts, nothing like "real clouds".

I don't know for all options in the category but Scaleway offers a viable alternative to EC2, EBS, Lambda, S3, EKS, ECR, CloudFront and many more (although IAM is still lacking depth). OVHCloud also has a Public Cloud offer than differ from their baremetal offer (the plain old server one) but IMO it's lacking compared to Scaleway. I've heard good about UpCloud and Exoscale but never tried them myself.

I do think integration with compliance vendors and marketplace offers are two things where these providers are lacking but I'd be curious what you find is lacking to qualify them as "real clouds".

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Post by pjmlp »

mixedbit wrote: post #8

The incoming Q1 earning reports will show if these actions are mainstream enough to make a visible dent in companies quarterly earnings. For now, the already reported Tesla sales numbers in Europe are substantially down, but Tesla is the strongest target of the boycott. It will be interesting to see if consumer companies such as Coca Cola, Nike, Amazon also report a substantial drop in EU sales.

Not sure how much it gets consumed, but many places in Germany rather sell Fritz-Kola only.

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Post by WJW »

avh02 wrote: post #16
glimshe wrote: post #13

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why would Europeans not like it? edit: aha, misread the comment, i read it as, roughly: "europeans would not like it if americans start looking at the european alternatives", not "looking at alternatives to european products" - yes, i agree, Europeans would not like that.

Presumably a bunch of Europeans would lose their jobs if the Americans stop buying cars and machine tools and whatnot from Europe.

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Post by 0_____0 »

praptak wrote: post #11
buyucu wrote: post #4

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I call this kind of argument "ignited gas burner cools the water". The water boils, so evaporation increases, so evaporative cooling increases, which cools the water. Edit: I mean: most of the bad stuff creates secondary effects which work the opposite way and can be considered good.

I like your phrasing better than mine, which apes the dril tweet, paraphrased, "drunk driving kills people but also helps people get to work on time"

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Post by atoav »

avh02 wrote: post #16
glimshe wrote: post #13

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why would Europeans not like it? edit: aha, misread the comment, i read it as, roughly: "europeans would not like it if americans start looking at the european alternatives", not "looking at alternatives to european products" - yes, i agree, Europeans would not like that.

My guess is because less money flows to Europe when less Americans use european services?

Had a hard time parsing that comment as well..

But the services thing cuts both ways and afaik Europe uses more US services than vice versa in terms of revenue.

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Post by nazgob »

Darmody wrote: post #12
buyucu wrote: post #4

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While I agree that Europe needs its own companies I don't think turning allies into enemies is a good idea.

I don't think it's fair to say that Europeans started. Danes always bought US hardware over European arms, went to war when US called and lost soldiers. Now they are threatened with imperial invasion and called a 'bad ally' by their 'ally'. This was one of the most pro-US countries in the world.

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Post by jmkd »

glimshe wrote: post #13

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European services and products are not the dominant and default solution for most people, nor are they becoming increasingly entangled with controversial political views and activities. So your curiosity may have to wait a while.
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