Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
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Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#2Can someone confirm or fill in details?
* CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL.
* IBM effectively cut off CentOS.
* Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was.
* "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "compliance" checkboxes that companies require?
* "Rocky Linux from CIQ - Hardened" offers some supposed security improvements that vanilla RHEL doesn't?
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#3But is it FIPS certified?
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#4Can someone confirm or fill in details? * CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. * IBM effectively cut off CentOS. * Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was. * "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "co…
>CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL.
CentOS was a binary/functionally compatible build of RHEL without the RHEL branding.
>IBM effectively cut off CentOS.
Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream.
>Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro...
Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS Stream is also a viable choice. It works well from my own personal experience.
>but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was.
Speaking as the lead of Release Engineering, it does require quite a bit of effort to maintain Rocky Linux. It can be especially time consuming during May and November when releases are scheduled, given that it's volunteer time.
As for CIQ, who knows what they offer or what it is they are actually doing with our distribution. Is it to check a box? Probably, given the way I've seen some companies act around these sorts of things. Does it offer security improvements? Who really even knows.
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#5Can someone confirm or fill in details? * CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. * IBM effectively cut off CentOS. * Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was. * "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "co…
>CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. CentOS was a binary/functionally compatible build of RHEL without the RHEL branding. >IBM effectively cut off CentOS. Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream. >Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro... Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS…
> Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream.
The fact is that Red Hat killed centos a little after it was acquired by IBM. Who decided this is not something that we'll learn (or even care anyway).
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#6Can someone confirm or fill in details? * CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. * IBM effectively cut off CentOS. * Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was. * "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "co…
>CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. CentOS was a binary/functionally compatible build of RHEL without the RHEL branding. >IBM effectively cut off CentOS. Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream. >Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro... Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS…
> Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS Stream is also a viable choice.
One of the main value propositions of RHEL (and RHL before it) is that each distro version has a fixed ABI throughout (kernel included), making it a valid compilation target for binary-only software. Neither Stream nor even Alma are that.
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#7How much?
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
>CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. CentOS was a binary/functionally compatible build of RHEL without the RHEL branding. >IBM effectively cut off CentOS. Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream. >Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro... Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS…
> Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS Stream is also a viable choice. One of the main value propositions of RHEL (and RHL before it) is that each distro version has a fixed ABI throughout (kernel included), making it a valid compilation target for binary-only software. Neither Stream nor even Alma are that.
Also, many software vendors don't support Centos stream.
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#9Can someone confirm or fill in details? * CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. * IBM effectively cut off CentOS. * Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was. * "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "co…
>CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. CentOS was a binary/functionally compatible build of RHEL without the RHEL branding. >IBM effectively cut off CentOS. Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS Linux and move their focus toward CentOS Stream. >Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro... Rocky Linux is one of many choices for a RHEL-compatible distribution. I would also say CentOS…
> Red Hat (not IBM) made the decision to end CentOS
I don't understand what you mean here? Wasn't Red Hat already owned by IBM when this decision was made?
Re: Rocky Linux from CIQ – Hardened
#10Can someone confirm or fill in details? * CentOS used to be a free rebranding of RHEL. * IBM effectively cut off CentOS. * Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro, but is higher effort to maintain than CentOS was. * "Rocky Linux from CIQ" is a commercial product that is attempting to compete with RHEL, by being lower-cost essentially-RHEL while still satisfying some is-there-a-company-behind-it "co…
> Rocky Linux is the replacement free RHEL-compatible distro
Wasn't (isn't) there another CentOS replacement that was created around the same time? Are they still around? Are there alternatives or is Rocky pretty much it?