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Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by cnotv »

cnotv wrote: post #410
hayst4ck wrote: post #250

It's the most important time in human history to protest/fight unchecked power because it's likely the last era of humanity that we are going to be able to. We are getting to the point where the technology that fuels oppression, including extremely pervasive surveillance, privatized intelligence services with no oversight, scalable AI agents that do as they are told, and crowd "maiming" or other forceful dispersal te…

I think this is the last chance for the people in power to stop messing around before US, the people with knowledge, get pissed off and take them down with force, using the technology WE make for THEM.

I just realized that capitalizing the word "us" sounded like United states :facepalm:

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by jncfhnb »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #179
jncfhnb wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russian tactics have been largely ineffective and characterized by horrendous losses despite immense advantages in manpower and material

Russian tactics have worked so far in Ukraine, as gruesome as that is.

They’ve worked, at great cost, against Ukraine. They wouldn’t work against a more powerful foe with air superiority.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

hayst4ck wrote: post #514
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #511

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There is a way to sign up without phone number, albeit rather convoluted. Certainly doable for a determined criminal :)

I'm far from a security expert, but I also have direct security expertise, and from the way you talk, I am highly confident that there are a lot of things you don't know you don't know and I think you've failed to imagine the wealth of information available to institutional powers. The original MS Blaster writer was found because Microsoft uploaded a memory dump when the author was creating their proof of concept. Ro…

> Bitcoin is literally profitable for providers, I don't think it's generally considered private, and mostly it's a hedge against inflation based theft.

This is not what Bitcoin "mostly is".

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

immibis wrote: post #500
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #294

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I cut the context because the context doesn't matter. Anyone making the claim that this likely the last era of humanity that anything is just wrong. The future (even just the future of humanity) is longer and weirder and wilder and more filled with unknowns than anyone alive now can imagine. This is not the last era of humanity that anything . We should still be protesting/fighting unchecked power.

There have been many last eras of humanity of things. The last era of gas lighting (lighting powered by gas, not the manipulation tactic). The last era of information being passed down orally. The last era of monarchs. The last era of human computers. I understand that you are saying there are no last eras of anything so this can't be the last era of something, and that's incorrect.

The post I was replying to was not worded as "the last era of X". It was worded as "the last era of humanity". Certainly things, practices, places, peoples, beliefs come and go. Humanity likely will end at some point, but that's not about to happen in any predictable way in the currently foreseeable future.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by dewyatt »

camilo2025 wrote: post #33
observationist wrote: post #27

Serbia had the LRAD systems on hand, after buying them in 2022, most likely from Genasys, but possibly from HyperSpike. https://genasys.com/lrad-products/ It's a legal gray area in Serbia where the use against civilians isn't explicitly forbidden, so they're playing fast and loose and moving fast to crush opposition. It's better than troops just gunning people down, but for a modern, supposedly civilized country it's…

You are aware that these LRAD systems have been used against US citizens, aren't you?

Example: https://www.theblaze.com/news/general-mark-milley-pentagon-a...

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by immibis »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #524
immibis wrote: post #500

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There have been many last eras of humanity of things. The last era of gas lighting (lighting powered by gas, not the manipulation tactic). The last era of information being passed down orally. The last era of monarchs. The last era of human computers. I understand that you are saying there are no last eras of anything so this can't be the last era of something, and that's incorrect.

The post I was replying to was not worded as "the last era of X". It was worded as "the last era of humanity". Certainly things, practices, places, peoples, beliefs come and go. Humanity likely will end at some point, but that's not about to happen in any predictable way in the currently foreseeable future.

Incorrect. It was worded as "the last era of humanity doing X". It parses as "the last era of {humanity doing X}" and not "{the last era of humanity} doing X" (which isn't something that makes sense anyway).

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by immibis »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #523
hayst4ck wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm far from a security expert, but I also have direct security expertise, and from the way you talk, I am highly confident that there are a lot of things you don't know you don't know and I think you've failed to imagine the wealth of information available to institutional powers. The original MS Blaster writer was found because Microsoft uploaded a memory dump when the author was creating their proof of concept. Ro…

> Bitcoin is literally profitable for providers, I don't think it's generally considered private, and mostly it's a hedge against inflation based theft. This is not what Bitcoin "mostly is".

How not?

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by immibis »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #130
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #80

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Can you have the moral high ground if you're using violence against your people?

well if they turn out out to be violence and can be destructive (they called riot), yes they can

Which means some undercover cops throw a few stones whenever they want it to be a riot.

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Post by g-b-r »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #47
g-b-r wrote: post #37

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Everything short of the worst we've ever done is totally OK? What even is this argument?

No, the argument was that thousands of innocents have been killed just in the last year, with US weapons, for no reason.

While *I agree* to what was written in the post I replied to (I'm no supporter of Vucic or his buddy Putin), many other things would deserve words a thousand times heavier; and are instead not even condemned by many people here.

I only meant to point out that, in the only hope that even other things get condemned at least similarly.

Re: Military grade sonic weapon is used against protesters in Serbia

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Post by g-b-r »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #145
g-b-r wrote: post #37

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Ah "but the USA!!". Cant tell if you are a suburb leftie who lives there or a russian troll.

None, just someone who didn't notice the downvotes, flagging (why?) and replies before
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