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Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Lets see if they put cash where there mouth is they should have been pouring billions of dollars into opensource software instead of paying Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Oracle etc in the first place. Europe countries have been client states of the USA for decades and just do whatever USA wanted first time USA has hurt their own interests so are waking up to the fact.

And there were so many wakeup calls... Microsoft alone would be reason enough to not use any of their software. They've been breached how many times in the past years?

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Lets see if they put cash where there mouth is they should have been pouring billions of dollars into opensource software instead of paying Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Oracle etc in the first place. Europe countries have been client states of the USA for decades and just do whatever USA wanted first time USA has hurt their own interests so are waking up to the fact.

I was pondering in why the EU never really got targeted directly like Canada and Mexico with Trumps tarifs.

I think this is it.

And it would be incredibly bad for US tech billionaires if the EU started to move home all these contracts.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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While I don't like the politics giving rise to this, de-globalization combined with the great social media unbundling and other trends means we might finally see decentralization be a major trend (outside of the cryptocurrency ghetto). Overall I think this is a good thing. It could mean the end of the monolithic closed SaaS era, which is the absolute worst possible model for software if you care about privacy or any…

I would guess that for the most part we won’t have “true” decentralization, but given the EU has mandated interoperability between big providers like Apple and Facebook I can imagine that we will eventually have major services that are EU centric (either in certain markets or most/all of the EU), and there will be ways for people to use their own setup as well (basically multi polar distribution, plus the ability for…

> I can imagine that we will eventually have major services that are EU centric

I work in a research project in a EU country that looks at how educational certificates (diploma's, degrees, credentials) will be done in the future.

A big part of it, are requirements and frameworks imposed, dictated or assumed by governments, commissions, universities, etc. The most important¹ parts of these requirements are:

- it must be self-sovereign. Not decentralized per-se, but technically often one step further than decentralized. My diploma, in my wallet (mobile?) is mine. I hold it, I am free to share it, delete it, copy it.

- it must be separated from the issuers. A person getting a degree might outlive a university, high school, or their servers/services.

- it must be privacy preserving - GDPR and better.

These constraints tell me that the EU, and EC are serious about decentralization and self-sovereign-identities. Which is very different from what local or current governments like and want - At least one EU government is in conflict with its universities and wants to be the gatekeeper of diploma's - they truly want the ability to deny or retract diploma's from people who they don't like.

Which, ironically, makes these constraints and requirements all the more important and critical in e.g. our projects. It went from a "decentralization is nice because in theory someone could..." to "decentralization is critical to ensure no-one, on any end of any political spectrum can take away diploma's as is currently being attempted".

(And for the curious: I work with W3C, openId, IETF and many more standards and -bodies. Verifiable Credentials, OpenBadges v3, OIDC4VCI, VP, etc)

¹ Edit: well, maybe not "most", as there isn't a clear prioritization. And obvious requirements such as "you cannot just fake a diploma" are probably higher in priority.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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I wonder what the implications are for AWS’s efforts in building the "AWS European Sovereign Cloud" in Dublin, Ireland. They are recruiting aggressively, even offering a relocation budget of up to €9,000. Although I was tempted to interview for an SDE role, I felt it would be wrong to uproot my family and relocate from the Netherlands to Ireland. And for what? A higher-paying role at a FAANG company? Still tempting, but I decided to put my family first.

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Called it, again . Data sovereignty is the true trend of the next decade. Not Quantum, not AI, but the new multi-pole world order divesting from Americentric technologies and back into the sort of locally-grown economies that children of the Cold War would be familiar with. Local vendors serving local needs with a focus on regional, not global, scale and service. Us Cassandra types have been screaming for years that…

Dump Office and Teams. Easy to do and a great start to move outside of Windows OS.

LibreOffice is perfect, and government officials wont govern better or worst, if their PowerPoint presentations don't have the latest MS fonts....

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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It always surprises me that people only act when a problem becomes undeniable, rather than preventing it in the first place. In a country with a voting system and power structure like US, where a single person can abruptly shift the entire nation's direction, this has always been a security flaw for others. It's the same as relying on Russian gas, people pretend the worst can't happen because it would be harmful to e…

Reminder that Russian gas is not a closed topic.

Several European countries are still financing Russia's war economy by buying Russian gas. There is no 100% embargo ... yet.

I see a lot of people discussing this as if we are all running on windmills and nuclear, it is absolutely not the case... yet.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Europe's problem in this area seems to be inability to build a mechanism to realize large, unprofitable projects. It looks like the whole continent operates on thin margins, and has no resources set aside to pursue strategic initiatives. US is building its pile of resources by capitalising on its current advantage, but also by pushing larger and larger parts of society into poverty. Europe is maybe more fair, but ult…

Europe isn't that far behind and often produces new technologies. It has some of the best universities and research labs in the world.

The problem is the uncompetitive business environment.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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They don't remove posts that discuss European tech sovereignty. It was probably flagged by the community instead.

Everything that can be connected in a negative way to the current government gets flagged, so this will probably get flagged soon too.

You would say that they are shielding themselves from Trump or his minions and are as opportunistic as every other tech based company? To be fair I do not see much of the critiques to the "other side" either. Someone can just perceive this as a politics and just doesn't need it in his information space.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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rn I'm in Poland, where things are still sane. I have tried in Germany as well, and that's just impossible.

Oh, it’s possible in Germany. What problems do you have in Poland?

> Oh, it’s possible in Germany

Of course.

How do I fire an employee? That's right, I don't. Otherwise sure it's possible.

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