Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

Post by schnitzelstoat » Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 12:40 PM UTC

monooso wrote: post #29

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #13

> Dutch MP Barbara Kathmann, author of four of the motions, told The Register. "If we continue outsourcing all of our digital infrastructure to billionaires that would rather escape Earth by building space rockets, there will be no Dutch expertise left." This kind of casual anti-technology attitude among European politicians is part of the reason we are in this mess.

You may not agree with the sentiment, but the quote isn't anti-technology. It doesn't say that "escaping Earth" is an inherently bad thing, it simply highlights the perils of outsourcing digital infrastructure to certain billionaires who wish to do so. Which is a valid concern.

Post by epistasis » Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 12:41 PM UTC

latentcall wrote: post #18

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #13

> Dutch MP Barbara Kathmann, author of four of the motions, told The Register. "If we continue outsourcing all of our digital infrastructure to billionaires that would rather escape Earth by building space rockets, there will be no Dutch expertise left." This kind of casual anti-technology attitude among European politicians is part of the reason we are in this mess.

Anti-technology is just a dog whistle for anti-capital. Billionaires have made things exceptionally worse. Facebook was started as a way to rate women’s faces, is the foundation our data collection industry is built off of. We need to tear down the entire system and rebuild something else.

Post by yladiz » Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 12:42 PM UTC

api wrote: post #38

stego-tech wrote: post #12

Called it, again . Data sovereignty is the true trend of the next decade. Not Quantum, not AI, but the new multi-pole world order divesting from Americentric technologies and back into the sort of locally-grown economies that children of the Cold War would be familiar with. Local vendors serving local needs with a focus on regional, not global, scale and service. Us Cassandra types have been screaming for years that…

While I don't like the politics giving rise to this, de-globalization combined with the great social media unbundling and other trends means we might finally see decentralization be a major trend (outside of the cryptocurrency ghetto). Overall I think this is a good thing. It could mean the end of the monolithic closed SaaS era, which is the absolute worst possible model for software if you care about privacy or any…

Post by jeromegv » Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 12:43 PM UTC

cinntaile wrote: post #31

FlorisWie wrote: post #20

I am curious if this post will be deleted by the moderators, like the last time a discussion about European tech sovereignty was brought up on this American website.

They don't remove posts that discuss European tech sovereignty. It was probably flagged by the community instead.

Post by amelius » Thu, Mar 20, 2025, 12:43 PM UTC