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Might be, but that is the thing, while it is tradition to complain about Oracle, in many cases their are the only ones that show up at the door with the suitcase full of money. So where are the others that supposedly are better than them? In this case, Softbank will be having ARM and Ampere.
This depends on definition of "better". Maybe your question is better suited as "So, where are the others that supposedly are richer than them?" In that case, we have the CPU manufacturers, which already do this as the business, Google, which is not that interested, or already make their own chips, Apple, which has an in-house CPU/GPU company, and probably IBM, which also designs and builds their own processors. So,…
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#12Is hardware so much less valuable?
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#13And Google just spent five times that to acquire a cyber security startup with 1000 customers. Is hardware so much less valuable?
The SB purchase is part of Arm completely restructuring their IP philosophy and business model. Ampere was sold for "so little" because Arm could effectively just cut them off as soon as their contract ran out. This was a cleaner transfer.
Arm is bringing everything back in house, ceding the low end to RISC-V and taking the high end back in and producing their own silicon.
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#14And Google just spent five times that to acquire a cyber security startup with 1000 customers. Is hardware so much less valuable?
They are totally separate the Wiz thing is a reverse IDF merger. The SB purchase is part of Arm completely restructuring their IP philosophy and business model. Ampere was sold for "so little" because Arm could effectively just cut them off as soon as their contract ran out. This was a cleaner transfer. Arm is bringing everything back in house, ceding the low end to RISC-V and taking the high end back in and producin…
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They are totally separate the Wiz thing is a reverse IDF merger. The SB purchase is part of Arm completely restructuring their IP philosophy and business model. Ampere was sold for "so little" because Arm could effectively just cut them off as soon as their contract ran out. This was a cleaner transfer. Arm is bringing everything back in house, ceding the low end to RISC-V and taking the high end back in and producin…
A what?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
This depends on definition of "better". Maybe your question is better suited as "So, where are the others that supposedly are richer than them?" In that case, we have the CPU manufacturers, which already do this as the business, Google, which is not that interested, or already make their own chips, Apple, which has an in-house CPU/GPU company, and probably IBM, which also designs and builds their own processors. So,…
Indeed, which kind of proves the point, in the scenarios where the only shopper at shows at the store is Oracle, the alternative is bankruptcy.
I think the fear is that if Oracle was the purchaser, then that would be good for Oracle, but not necessarily the rest of the ARM ecosystem. Given Softbank’s ARM investment, it is in their interest to try to keep the ecosystem healthy.
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What about https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro/rack#
That's not a server. It is a rackable desktop. You won't run general purpose server apps on this.
Does Apple prevent their users running applications which listen to outside connections?
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Indeed, which kind of proves the point, in the scenarios where the only shopper at shows at the store is Oracle, the alternative is bankruptcy.
Was Ampere going bankrupt though? I think the fear is that if Oracle was the purchaser, then that would be good for Oracle, but not necessarily the rest of the ARM ecosystem. Given Softbank’s ARM investment, it is in their interest to try to keep the ecosystem healthy.
In the specific case of Ampere it remains to be seen, it wasn't that healthy also.
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/26/oracle_ampere_stake_c...
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#20Ampere is still the only people making a decent purchaseable ARM server. Not loving the idea of there being a bunch of new debt hovering over them now.
128 cores going 100% in htop was fun!