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Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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Re: Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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If we had done as well as the places that were careful there would be about 1 million more Americans now than there actually are. But most of them were costs to society, not producers, and thus killing them was a win for the Republicans. (Although I don't think we had a chance of doing as well because it got here earlier.)

You can repeat that narrative all you want but it was always a bad one and became really stale, really fast. Observing regions, countries and comparing when they didn't perform the hygiene theater really showed your measures had little effect (as expected). The fudging of numbers and bad faith also made things hard to argue. The fact that you're all about republicans wanted to murder Americans shows how deranged you…

Forget countries, just look at states. There's a *big* correlation between voting Republican and Covid death rates. (And that's after correcting for demographics, the raw numbers are even worse.)

As for Republicans wanting them dead: do the words "We want them infected" not ring a bell? In case you've forgotten: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-dem...

Either that was based on a delusion (how do you propose to infect only the low-risk individuals?) or the true objective was to kill off a lot of the weak. And that wasn't a one-off by a nut, there was a substantial contingent of conservatives who wanted that approach. Simply ignoring it would have been callous, but wanting them infected is intent.

Re: Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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post #477

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

I do not believe that is the case, but since I cannot see most of this thread I cannot even review it.

Re: Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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post #477

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

I do not believe that is the case, but since I cannot see most of this thread I cannot even review it.

You should be able to see the entire thread if you turn 'showdead' on in your profile. The only posts that don't show up that way are ones which their author deleted.

However, your comments have been breaking the site guidelines regardless of what else is in the threads:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43343978

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43343961

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43343926

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43343860

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43298307

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43298121

I know it always feels like the other person started it and did worse (and indeed, many of the comments you were replying to were bad ones that got deservedly flagged), but we need you* to follow the guidelines regardless of what anyone else is doing. Any other approach just invokes a downward spiral (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).

* I don't just mean you, of course, but everyone who is posting to HN.

Re: Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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post #104

I have my California Drivers License in my Apple Wallet. I should be able to prove to iPhone apps that I am 18+ (only a binary yes/no with no metadata) by the apps making a local API call to iOS, which checks this information with the unexpired drivers license on device.

That is trusting both Apple and the client, and also only works for iPhone. We can do better with zero-knowledge-proof-based schemes, which also allow securely decoupling issuance/certification from online verification. E.g. https://linc.cnil.fr/en/demonstration-privacy-preserving-age...

I don't see why Google/Android can't implement the same solution.

Re: Age Verification Laws: A Backdoor to Surveillance

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I know movie theaters are different from video rental stores - but I once got carded on a date at age 16, to see the movie Johnny Pneumonic. It was rated R. Still had one more year to go. It was rather embarrassing. I still have not watched Johnny Pneumonic.

You mean Johnny Mnemonic?

Yes :)
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