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Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

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Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#31

How do track errors with the AI? Is it up to me as a user to flag them or do you have a review process or have different models confirm the same outcome?

Good question, what would be best for you?

Right now if you suspect an error in AI response you can flag it/submit as feedback. For anything that AI does without your input (bookkeeping) we associate a confidence with it and when below that threshold we get a human in the loop.

We know that trusting AI with financial info is hard which is partially why we have the sheet (so that the AI can backup it's claims).

Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#32
As somebody who has been using QuickBooks begrudgingly for the last year, this seems very interesting!

However, what is Linear? It's impossible to search for what it might be because it's a common word that I search for in other contexts extensively.

Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#34

> It even includes a built-in spreadsheet so you’re never limited in reporting. That may be your next pivot, if you are not careful, or maybe if you are. I did two semesters in college interning on an application like this which did not survive, and one of the things that kept coming up in comparables was that the biggest competition was not Quickbooks, the biggest competition for small/medium sized business accounti…

That's a great point and was actually what led to the pivot to accounting software. We originally tried to make this just a reporting tool (aggregate financial sources, think equals.com) but came to the same realisation that it was hard to get people to switch from Excel. In this product the sheet is not the product, just a feature

Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#36
A number of years ago, the company I worked for got acquired by Intuit and I ended up in a lot of meetings with the people in charge of Quickbooks. And I can tell you that you’re not looking at Quickbooks the way they are.

One of the key takeaways that I had was that Intuit viewed accounting as a three-way market where the professional accountants were the most important factor when it came to the product design. Customers generally don’t care what software gets used and will pick whatever their accountant recommends. As such, only certain workflows prioritized ease of use and being intuitive. Business owners want to go in and see reports on how their business is doing, but when it comes to actually doing the books, they don’t care. And accountants see the unintuitive parts of Quickbooks as a moat. They’ve put so much time and effort into learning to use such a poor UI, that they see a lot of their value in skillfully navigating that “bad” UI. There’s a ton of hidden tricks that have evolved over the years and get passed from accountant to accountant and they’ll scream bloody murder if Intuit tries to change them. It was funny to hear how much effort was being put into replicating weird interaction patterns from Quickbooks Desktop when they were creating Quickbooks Online and trying to migrate customers over.

My advice to you is to try to find professional accountants who will let you observe them using Quickbooks or Xero. I can almost guarantee that they’re using those products very differently from the way you do. And don’t assume that just because Quickbooks UI sucks, making a better UI will make you successful. Having worked with them, the people in charge of Quickbooks Online are very talented and plenty capable of making a more intuitive UI. The choice not to is intentional and based on a lot of history and strong relationships with their professional accountant community. There will always be some small business owners who try to go it alone, and they really do need more intuitive accounting solutions. In general, I thought Wave was pretty good at targeting that segment the last time I looked at it. But the money there is tiny. And if you want to be hugely successful, you have to understand accountants and why they choose Quickbooks.

Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#37

As somebody who has been using QuickBooks begrudgingly for the last year, this seems very interesting! However, what is Linear? It's impossible to search for what it might be because it's a common word that I search for in other contexts extensively.

https://linear.app/

Re: Launch HN: Modernbanc (YC W20) – Modern and fast accounting software

#38

very curious - why did it take you 5 years to launch post YC? (It says W20 batch)

this is our 3rd pivot :) we've launched other products before such as Ledger API processing over $100m in txn volume a month and a PCI vault for fintechs with 1m+ users. However we took a hard decision to pivot again as we didn't feel like we'd achieve the impact we wanted in those markets.

Which ledger api is that and which PCI vault?
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