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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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> And I don't think that it is the slightest bit unprofessional to have feelings about where you spent a year of your life, or to talk about those feelings. I think it’s cultural. Astronauts I think are more disciplined and more professional on average than an average Joe. Even if they hated it they probably wouldn’t mention it publicly. Maybe after they retire from NASA completely.

>Astronauts I think are more disciplined and more professional on average than an average Joe. All astronauts are military service members. I'd expect nothing less.

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If my car breaks down and I have to wait a few hours for somebody to pick me up, I'm stranded.

If your car breaks down but you decide to wait for the tow truck even though you have a backup car ready to go in case things get bad are you still "stranded"?

If that backup car is being held in reserve in case other people who are intending to stay where I am have an emergency, then yes.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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What interview? Can you link it?

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1897470032612851893 (Note: I don't know anything about the X account. It was just the first result I found.) Edit: Also it sucks that I can't ask a genuine question on this website without getting downvoted to oblivion. Whatever the answer, it would be nice to get it without being judged.

The astronauts in that clip say they have no information on who said what to whom, so it takes the wind out of the sails of the statement that everything Musk says is factual.

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While running his other two companies (Tesla, X), being in charge of DOGE, and making political statements on stages everywhere, AND taking care of his 14 children ... I don't think he was actually involved in this. Or maybe he was there in the mission control room, physically, just for kicks, and annoying the hell out of the engineers. Now that I find somewhat likely.

Yeah must be all of his companies have good employees and all his competitors companies have terrible employees. Nothing to do with the CEO or the company culture. Sort of like Apple, Jobs was probably just annoying his engineers all the time and contributed nothing. /s

That is exactly what is going on. Boeing doesn't have Gwenn Shotwell. She's the one making SpaceX operate.

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#396
post #359

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Read the article I linked above, also written by Eric Berger! Butch confirmed Elon's claim that he made an offer to bring them home last year was accurate. So we know that that offer was made, and must have been rejected. What we don't know is why. But the real thing here is that Eric Berger has written extensively about the political games NASA plays or (depending on one's perspective) is compelled to play. They sup…

That interview doesn't really say much. It is mostly an carefully worded, polite but empty statement made after earlier extemporaneous comments by Suni and Butch seemingly contradicted Musk. The headline claim is basically just Butch saying he has no insight into the decision process but he trusts Musk is telling the truth. In contrast other articles Eric wrote talking to people who where involved in the decision of…

I 100% agree he's phrasing things 'politically', but think about how you might also be reading what you want to read. For instance the section where you [reasonably] claim he's contradicting Musk (by claiming the decision was not political) was also not only phrased politically, but even came with a sort of disclaimer starting with "From my standpoint." There were no such disclaimers when stating that Musk made some sort of an offer to return the astronauts.

And again something you can't discount here is that Eric himself has written extensively about NASA frequently carrying out/endorsing poor decisions (SLS/Artemis being the low hanging fruit there) owing much more to political pressure than pragmatic decisions about the best direction for progress. Here [1] is one example, including an interview with a former high level NASA insider (30 years experience, up to deputy administrator) openly and casually talking about such.

It's not a secret whatsoever that NASA is under constant and significant political pressure. It's just a part of the game. And in this case you had a situation where the guy, who had basically become public enemy #2 (from the previous administration's POV), was going to be spearheading a high visibility rescue of a launch that should never have been approved in the first place - undoubtedly while blasting it all to his tens of millions of followers. To imagine this would not have provoked some behind the scenes 'management' just seems unthinkable to me.

[1] - https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/former-nasa-official...

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post #86

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Berger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.

>"We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. >Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. >This is why we can't have nice things. That doesn't sound like an "excellent journalist". It sounds like a Redditor.

Ad hominem.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

#398
post #334

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It seemed to all start going wrong with "pedo guy". Before then Musk was doing great things at Tesla and SpaceX. After that he started getting more and more unhinged, leading through to buying twitter, then trying to get out of it, then doubling down.

Don't abuse ketamine, kids.

And love your kids, folks.

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post #184

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If my car breaks down and I have to wait a few hours for somebody to pick me up, I'm stranded.

Awful anology. The constant in all the news cycles is about how they've been stranded all this time. Which isn't just a bit misleading, its a flat out lie. Even when starliner departed, they werent standed. There was litterally an emergency plan prepared for how they'd get them home if they had to, and made modifications to the existing crew 8 ship to allow for this. This was all covered in the briefing: https://www.…

You're leaning on some "ackshully technically" definition of stranded. The fact that they had emergency contingencies in place the whole time doesn't invalidate the fact that they were stranded in the common colloquial sense of the term.

If I'm at work and my car breaks down, I'm stranded. I call my buddy to pick me up, and if there is an emergency I can ask a coworker to drive me home, but I'd rather not inconvenience them and so I am stranded until my buddy comes.

The word stranded is almost never used to describe scenarios where literally no contingency exists, because such scenarios almost never happen in modern live. To insist on such pedantry would be to effectively retire the word from common parlance.

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Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

> recent (regrettable) turn It's only regrettable through the lens of partisan politics. DOGE is undeniably a good concept. You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything, cut wasteful spending, expose corrupt spending, and trim bureaucratic inefficiency via external oversight. It would be regrettable not to undertake the task.

Adding “undeniably” to a sentence doesn’t magically make it so.
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