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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by d3nj4l » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:08 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #85

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like. The fact is, I've read very similar articles about how US treats any non-US citizens a decade or two ago. Nothing changed dramatically, people just bring these…

> Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like.

No. The US is still the best place in the world for immigrants. There's no other place in the world (barring maybe Canada) where as many people from as many other countries and ethnicities can feel welcome and a part of society. I have several friends who move to European countries (mostly Germany but also the Netherlands) and they never felt like they belonged, while in the US I feel like everyone else. What's going on right now is a temporary shift in this policy, but hopefully the pendulum will swing back.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by jajko » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:08 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #83

Swoerd123 wrote: post #14

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>>science-denying Citation needed. >>Look at the protests in Hungary, look at Serbia—that’s how you stand up to a fascist That's how you get EU and USAID funding to standup to a president outside of the WEF overton window, certainly.

> hat's how you get EU and USAID funding to standup to a president outside of the WEF overton window, certainly.

Is this some US-based fiction among maga fanatics to pat on their wobbly backs?

Those people protest for they want freedom and self-determination in their lives, something even maga supporter with lowest IQ in the crowd should comprehend - the need for personal freedom is natural to all humans, yes even those without US passports. Something all dictators in all forms are very keen to take away as we are seeing everywhere including US.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ajkjk » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:08 PM UTC

ta1243 wrote: post #113

sebstefan wrote: post #47

>I was taken to the nurse’s office for a medical check. She asked what had happened to me. She had never seen a Canadian there before. When I told her my story, she grabbed my hand and said: “Do you believe in God?” >“I believe God brought you here for a reason,” she said. “I know it feels like your life is in a million pieces, but you will be OK. Through this, I think you are going to find a way to help others.” You…

America has always been a theocracy under a veneer of democracy. She's lucky she didn't get renamed to Offred.

yeah no it hasn't

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:08 PM UTC

twUewhag wrote: post #133

jajko wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like. The fact is, I've read very similar articles about how US treats any non-US citizens a decade or two ago. Nothing changed dramatically, people just bring these…

Thanks, the EU is full and has enough immigrants. Why should EU citizens pay outrageous rents, compete against the whole world with their degrees, get lower wages and have prime property bought up by Chinese and Russian oligarchs? (This does not mean that people should be treated brutally at the border.)

Guess I'll die, can't find a country that will take me and my partners

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by queuebert » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:09 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #85

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like. The fact is, I've read very similar articles about how US treats any non-US citizens a decade or two ago. Nothing changed dramatically, people just bring these…

> Why the fuck would anybody with any amount of dignity cause it upon themselves willingly?

Presumably because their home country treats them even worse? At least that's the point of the refugee program.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by blindriver » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:09 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #97

blindriver wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

There's a wide spectrum between being aggressive about asking for your passport and detention for weeks. While it's a slippery slope the extent to which it happens, and the extent to which prejudice is involved, varies a lot.

Are you suggesting that Swiss border patrol would have been more forgiving if I were illegally entering their country?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by I-M-S » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:09 PM UTC

apwell23 wrote: post #51

> There were around 140 of us in our unit. Many women had lived and worked in the US legally for years but had overstayed their visas – often after reapplying and being denied. They had all been detained without warning. Yet they chose to feature this white person from a white country. This article reminds of beginning of ukraine war when US press was showing white ppl and saying "we need to stand with them because t…

I am a dual-nation Canadian, with the other nationality held in much lower regard by the USA administration, meaning American conduct toward much of the world is not news to me.

I believe a lot of resentment Canadians currently feel towards Americans boils down to being treated the way they treat any other undesirable country.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:10 PM UTC

jon_adler wrote: post #121

blindriver wrote: post #21

Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

AFAIK, the Australian system doesn’t operate like this for visa overstays. Your friend may be confused with asylum applications for those who arrive by boat (which isn’t often used in practice). https://www.unsw.edu.au/content/dam/pdfs/law/kaldor/factshee...

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mdp2021 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:10 PM UTC

sebstefan wrote: post #47

>I was taken to the nurse’s office for a medical check. She asked what had happened to me. She had never seen a Canadian there before. When I told her my story, she grabbed my hand and said: “Do you believe in God?” >“I believe God brought you here for a reason,” she said. “I know it feels like your life is in a million pieces, but you will be OK. Through this, I think you are going to find a way to help others.” You…

"Servers must be strict in expression and loose on interpretation" (RFCs); "Respond to the best possible interpretation" (guidelines)...

That person was apparently trying to be humane, in her own personal way. Possibly ingenuous, probably in good faith and intention.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by lenerdenator » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 1:10 PM UTC

ta1243 wrote: post #84

mandmandam wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All Harris had to do to win was promise to stop sending arms to Israel. Many, many polls showed this very clearly. 77% of Democrat voters wanted an arms embargo, and over 30% of 2020 Biden voters in key battleground states said that this issue was serious enough to affect their vote. > A Harris organizer who worked on youth turnout said that senior campaign officials gave them an order: When they sent out mass volunt…

Well done for all the anti-israel-arming people. I hope they're happy with the outcome they wanted.

To be fair, they're okay with what they got so long as they're not the ones getting it.

Hamas is a hardline theocratic political party based on a very conservative interpretation of a religion. That means they're anti-free speech/press/religion/assembly, anti-LGBTQ rights, anti-free enterprise, anti-secular jurisprudence, and anti-representative government. Neither of the Palestinian Territories have had meaningful elections in over a decade. They're utterly unwilling to discuss any sort of deviation from their foreign policy agenda in good faith.

And yet, that's who many people on the political left-of-center see as the "freedom fighters" of the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Is Israel blameless? Absolutely not. They've committed numerous war crimes and atrocities since October 7th. On the other hand, they have shown with Jordan and Egypt that if their neighbors agree to leave them alone, they'll do the same in turn.

Fatah isn't that much better.

Honestly it's a different flavor of the same kind of authoritarianism that many on the right in the US dream of. And with Trump, they're much closer to implementing this, albeit with a different religion. If the idea behind the 2024 election in the US was to prevent more people from coming under authoritarian rule on a global scale, the left in the US failed miserably. And I say that as someone on the political left.