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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by linuxftw »

Don't come to the US, it's a police state.

Those people are stuck in detention for weeks and months at a time because there's thousands upon thousands of them, and they all get to have a hearing of some sort. Those hearings take time to process.

> I met a family of three who had been living in the US for 11 years with work authorizations.

This is code for 'illegal alien.' Previous administrations were willfully not enforcing the law, granting temporary status to those who weren't actually eligible. The new administration is not playing that game. Catch and release is over. If you're here unlawfully, you're going to be detained until you have a hearing, which is going to send you back to where you came from most likely.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by almostgotcaught »

freehorse wrote: post #23
stewx wrote: post #4

My takeaway from this is that laws and rules don't matter if the officials on the ground are incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you. There is a lot of unnecessary cruelty and lack of due process in this story.

I sort of disagree. There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money. When you privatise these kind of social services, this is what happens. This is not due to a few officials on the ground that just happened by chance to be "incompetent, ignorant, and have contempt for you". As the article concludes, > The reality became clear: Ice detentio…

> There _is_ a process, which optimises for holding people as long as possible for the prison industrial complex to make money

"due process" is what you are due - it is what is afforded to you by the 4th amendment and habeus corpus. Op is correct.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by jkaplowitz »

blindriver wrote: post #21

Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

> Someone I know is from Australia and she said if you overstay your visa they track you down, arrest you and send you to jails outside of Australia mainland until you are eventually deported. Every country treats their border extremely strictly.

Honestly, this kind of abusive approach is predominant among certain of the major anglophone countries only, at least within the world of fully developed democratic countries, likely for reasons of shared media ownership/viewership and overlapping cultural/political attitudes but I don’t know for sure.

Yes, several other fully developed democratic countries do of course treat their borders strictly in the sense of who’s allowed in and under what circumstances, but not with these kinds of abusive treatment as a common pattern. And I do frequently read news in three languages plus a fourth occasionally, so I don’t think this is just me being biased toward news from countries that share of my native language of English.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by betaby »

elicash wrote: post #15
danso wrote: post #11

> A woman asked me for the name of someone they could contact on my behalf. In moments like this, you realize you don’t actually know anyone’s phone number anymore. By some miracle, I had recently memorized my best friend Britt’s number because I had been putting my grocery points on her account. I definitely would be screwed in this situation. Time to remember by sibling’s number

Reminds me of doing civil disobedience -- you write your attorney's phone number on your arm beforehand.

> your attorney's phone

Right, people have attorneys. Very common thing ... nowhere?

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by AlexandrB »

Zambyte wrote: post #27
Swoerd123 wrote: post #14

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What was wrong with Harris?

Extremist positions on trans issues. To quote Sam Harris: "Congratulations, Democrats. You have found the most annoying thing in the fucking galaxy and hung it around your necks."[1]

[1] https://samharris.substack.com/p/the-reckoning

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