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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by ncallaway »

rdtsc wrote: post #111
baxtr wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like when was anything not political?

What do you mean by “anything”? The chair I am sitting is not terribly political, for instance.

I mean, from a certain perspective, it absolutely is.

Where was it manufactured? What were the labor laws where it was manufactured? Was there any environmental impact in its construction? How was it shipped to you, and was there any environmental or safety impact of that transportation? If it broke the day after it arrived, would the manufacturer owe you a replacement, or would you have to replace it at your own cost (caveat emptor)?

These are all decisions that had to be made, and were largely made collectively through a political process. Your chair likely wasn't constructed with slave labor—which was a political choice. If the chair breaks within minutes of arriving, the manufacturer will likely owe you a replacement through its implicit warranty according to the UCC.

So, no, the chair itself doesn't have political opinions. But the chair does have many direct ties to political choices that we've made.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by davidguetta »

pveierland wrote: post #76

Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

"Just what those political reasons were never specified. But the basic message was clear: Biden, bad; Trump, good"

Bullshit. Musk was clear that the reason was that they didn't want someone pro trump having success so close to the election.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by overfeed »

rdtsc wrote: post #111
baxtr wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like when was anything not political?

What do you mean by “anything”? The chair I am sitting is not terribly political, for instance.

What's the design? What's it made of? Where were the materials sourced? Why? Where was it made? Why? Was it supposed to be marked as potentially containing carcinogenics?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by stanac »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #85
lurker_jMckQT99 wrote: post #82

The drone footage is absolutely amazing (as compared to any other camera angle from the recovery boat where you would expect to have better quality but was actually awful). I had trouble, for a moment, believing that it was not CGIed. Is there any information about what drone/camera equipment was used?

It won't play for me. Has it been uploaded anywhere else?

I had the same problem with FF. Try using a chromium browser in incognito mode or with all extensions disabled.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by tonyhart7 »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #93
tonyhart7 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe not on your lifetime but at the speed of current progress, maybe your son or grandchildren can become space settler to terraform mars in the next generation (that literally coolest thing ever)

It's the coolest thing, but it will be frontier work. It won't be a walk in the park, almost certainly neither fun nor safe, and possibly a one-way ticket for a long time. (Even without the "corp-owned slave town" dystopia scenario that's also a possibility.)

"corp-owned slave town"

in space human slave is literally most expensive labor you can choose, automatons is the way

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by bheadmaster »

pavlov wrote: post #86
pveierland wrote: post #76

Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

Berger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.

I wasn't very convinced by his arguments - the main one being:

    Senior NASA officials earlier this month confirmed, publicly and on the record, that the decision was made by the space agency in the best interests of the International Space Station Program. Not for political reasons.
To be a little snarky here - so Senior NASA officials: honest, Musk: liar?

If, hypothetically, NASA was pressured for political reasons, I don't think Senior NASA officials would reveal it to the public anyway. So the fact that they said it's not for political reasons doesn't really prove anything for either side of the argument.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by BasilofBasiley »

rdtsc wrote: post #102
fabian2k wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk and Trump made this political, not Eric Berger.

When was space not political?

All the time. Nothing political about the Punch mission, or the current solar maximum spewing out a bunch of flares last year. Actually it's a bit of a shame the Punch mission wasn't launched sooner, so we could see amazing flares in 3D. But that's just me, I like sun stuff.

The point is, if you seek political stuff you'll find it, even a political spin on a recent flare that is being yet again compared to the Carrington Event. I'm here for the sun stuff and other space stuff. I'm here all the time, before and after the dust settles. I'm here for the "boring" stuff. If you have to ask that question, you're a tourist. Sorry if it comes across as gatekeeping. But it really looks like that to me.

Sure the thing's been politically amplified into oblivion by the parties involved. That doesn't mean ranting about the gulf of america and all the other things the author doesn't like about the current political situation in that arstechnica article, is a good suggestion to be bumped into a top comment. Neither is burying exodust's comment which I think has a very good point that I agree with.

Quote from the arstechnica article: "This is why we can't have nice things.". Yes it is. This is exactly it. Guess I'll just have to wait for the tourists to go elsewhere. Anyone who came for political reasons and stayed for the boring stuff is very much welcome, as always.

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