Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip,
That started from this tropic port
Aboard a Boeing ship
Two astronauts went up that day,
They both were brave and true,
The Starliner delivered them,
To join ISS crew.
...for an eight day station tour.
The testing on the Starliner,
Was thoroughly performed.
Although it probably was safe,
The NASA team were warned.
So the Starliner came home to Earth,
Without its stalwart crew,
The astronauts would stay in space,
An extra month or two.
...an extra month or two.
So join us here each week my friend,
It's such a special place,
With two (not!) stranded astronauts,
Here in Gilligan's space!Crew-9 Returns to Earth
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#22They should make a movie about this, it was all fun we were going to space for 8 days and stayed for 9 MONTHS STRANDED NO WAY BACK HOME. i felt so bad for them honestly. Glad they’re safe and home now.
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#27They should make a movie about this, it was all fun we were going to space for 8 days and stayed for 9 MONTHS STRANDED NO WAY BACK HOME. i felt so bad for them honestly. Glad they’re safe and home now.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Feels more like getting an extended vacation getting to do the coolest thing you can do as a human.
I’m not sure it’s considered a vacation if you didn’t plan on staying 34x the number of days you had originally planned, or have a choice to leave. Especially when you’re separated from your family and other loved ones.
And if you follow JPL robotic missions that far outlast their mission objectives and keep going like Energizer Bunnies, then is it not sort of amazing that the astronauts really suffered no privations or hardships, in terms of food/shelter/clothing/hygiene, by extending their missions and doing useful things up there?
People watch "The Martian" and "Lost in Space" and they can't seem to grasp the careful pre-planning, incident response, resource allocation, and orcestration that goes into everything that's done by space programs.
Space missions include sprawling, branching flow-charts of every contingency they imagined, and they inform the press of mission objectives and a proposed timeline, and then life happens and when glitches come up, they roll with them because they prepared for them. Apollo 13, for example, is categorically different than a space habitation in Earth orbit; as a lone vehicle with limited resources and an isolated path, that Apollo mission ran out of planned contingencies to the point of improvising so many things and returning to fundamentals, preserving human life.
It's the peril of human life that definitely adds drama for us, and the ISS being influenced by geopolitics is categorically different than the nationalist glories of Mercury-Gemini-Apollo vs. the Soviets. But with ISS in Earth orbit, receiving regular resupply missions, being a habitable outpost, it's far different than sending up a vehicle like the Space Shuttle while everyone speculates whether another Saturn V could be constructed in time to rescue the crew because tiles fell off their heat shield.
Speaking of Saturn, I've been peering into Greek/Roman mythology, and learning what Cronus/Saturn did with his children and how Aphrodite/Venus was born, gives new insight into super heavy-lift launch vehicles named after the deity.
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If there was any political motivation at all it would simply be to save Boeing's arse. They're one of two commercial airliner manufacturers in the world, so the US clearly has a vested interest in keeping them running.
Q. Did politics influence NASA's decision for you to stay longer in space?
Wilmore: From my standpoint, politics is not playing into this at all. From our standpoint, I think that they would agree, we came up prepared to stay long, even though we plan to stay short. That's what we do in human spaceflight
The Ars article is filled with mixed messages.When Starliner had issues, the already prepared backup plan was for them to join the crew and stay until "no earlier than February 2025" and be picked up by SpaceX on the crew rotation.
The early February SpaceX crew rotation was then pushed back by SpaceX to late March.
All of that was already "in the pipeline" as plans and contingency plans before Wilmore even left Earth.
Any offer by Musk falls more in the PR by Musk bucket side of the equation, and as an out of band out of scope offer it was likely just rejected due to there already being a rotation in the works ... which Musk had to push back in any case, casting doubt on any SpaceX ability to met any early pickup offer by Musk.