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I couldn't reply on your other comments along the same lines. I wanted to ask you if you care to elaborate on the things you say about Wiz? Like a lot of people here in the comments I also never heard of Wiz, I'm just curious.
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In Israel, a "normal civilian" sees the Sde Teiman video and thinks "those soldiers are heroes".
I don't know if it's true but I do know for sure America has killed at least 100x more civilians than Israel has in wars that were in no way needed or existential (Vietnam, Iraq x2) and yet no one on his right mind would demonize ordinary Americans and imply they are all bloodthirsty Nazis to be persecuted everywhere they step on earth.
There are polls about this that you could easily look up. Is your position that if most Israelis affirmatively support atrocities like this, the rest of the world should just pretend like we never saw that?
> America has killed at least 100x more civilians than Israel has
These aren't mutually exclusive. Israel is one of America's proxies. I'd support the international community putting sanctions on the US to put a stop to these things, but unfortunately it's not likely to happen because the US is the world's largest superpower and controls the global reserve currency, so it can operate with a degree of impunity. Is that a good situation, that you want to replicate around the world?
> no one on his right mind would demonize ordinary Americans
When the overwhelming majority of a country supports committing atrocities, it's not "demonizing" them to point that out.
> to be persecuted everywhere they step on earth.
Apparently it's "persecution" when people say that enthusiastically participating in a genocidal ethno-state's secret police means your company shouldn't get 32 billion dollars.
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The Mossad is a security service of the nation of Israel, which, for all intents and purposes, is a nation designed to house and protect Jews. And Judaism is a religion. So yes, a connection exists.
Many Jews do not practice Judaism. Being Jewish is an ethnicity. Source: am Jewish, not religeous.
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OP mentioned training AI on customer data GDPR, CCPA, HIPAA, etc, as Google has no way of knowing which data they will train on, add to that copyright and that's just off the top of my head cloud contract obligations are also pretty clear about customer data. furthermore it would be bad engineering and security if Wiz had actual direct access to customer data, versus having their code having access to said data. That…
Did you skim through Wiz's Privacy Policy? They're keeping a lot of stuff that isn't "direct access to customer data" and already permitted to be sent to 3rd parties, wouldn't surprise me if you could aggregate what features are most used on AWS by collating some other sources than having actual access to customers cloud. Obviously, existing agreements would need to continue to be run properly, no question about that…
that might be legal and interesting but i highly doubt it's 30+ billion dollar interesting
i imagine you can buy that data from data brokers without any legal exposure but that's only a guess
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I don't think WhatsApp had the same kind of revenue that Wiz has, even normalised for 2014 numbers.
Revenue and profit are very different. Like, it's easy to pump revenue at a loss. I don't really see the benefits of this acquisition for Google, but congrats to the Wiz team!
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#410Google has some amazing negotiating skills - paying 50% more for something they literally tried to get not even a year ago... (they tried to get it at 23 billing not even a year ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41042034 That being said, Instagram and WhatsApp were expensive for Facebook and those ended up being a steal. Time will tell, as usual.
Wiz is a SaaS b2b startup. Even on a forum for startups most people haven't heard of them.
Wiz reportedly has a revenue of 750m. It would take Google 30 years or more to break even on this deal. But like all bs startups Wiz will fade into irrelevancy 6 months after being acquired.
Google is getting completely scammed.