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Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Post by ziml77 »

mintplant wrote: post #547
seltzered_ wrote: post #513

Related, here's a comment from 2019 from at the time of writing from someone claiming to be a principal engineer at Amazon, talking about how "I'm proud of the approach that Amazon takes to privacy. Privacy of customer data is considered the most important thing to Amazon, and this customer obsession (the #1 leadership principle) permeates the organization." The comment further talks about the mute button on the orig…

Heh. We have a Nest Mini at home that someone gave us, that we use as a smart speaker. Before setting it up, I popped it open and physically scraped out the MEMS microphones. Now that' s a hardware mute.

Hardware mute until they switch the speaker output pins to input mode and use the speaker itself as a microphone.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Post by elif »

arcrwlock wrote: post #585
elif wrote: post #475

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" Why did you pick these default wake words and not something like “computer” or “okay assist”? A wake word should be uncommon in everyday conversations at home or in media, such as music or TV, to minimize the risk of the device activating unintentionally. “Nabu”, “Jarvis”, and “Mycroft” ... " They hardcoded the wake words in hardware... Why not just use LLM common sense to say "does this really sound like a purpose…

Because then you'd be running a full speech to text model all the time, and an LLM any time any speech is detected.

Uh yea, I want that to happen. Correct. Why would I want things happening without the model knowing and having context?

Have you seen Star Trek? We should have computer by now. An agent which knows when to tell us things we need to know, not just respond to requests.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Post by ern »

divbzero wrote: post #566
eitally wrote: post #560

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This is interesting because I remember interviewing a UX manager candidate at Google around 2019 who was coming from the Alexa team at Amazon, and his feedback even then was that Alexa was never going to be profitable and that he -- and many others -- were trying to get out while the getting was good. It, just like Google Assistant, is just suffering a very slow death.

2019 was before ChatGPT. Generative AI could change the game for digital voice assistants.

Weird that this got downvoted, considering that Amazon is currently rolling out Alexa+.

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Post by margalabargala »

sitkack wrote: post #626
margalabargala wrote: post #571

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Of course starlink stations scoop mac addresses. They are in this way equivalent to and on par with every other wifi router. A Tesla vehicle could also scoop up visible mac addresses, and is equally as capable of doing so as every other wifi-enabled device with closed source firmware. Android phones have been scooping wifi mac addresses, pairing them with GPS data, and sending that to google for at least 7 years: htt…

Given who is in charge and how much power they have shown to wield over those systems, yes, definitely. Nothing I have said makes light of those other systems and the grotesque data gathering that they do.

The person in charge is irrelevant. If you think that the other companies I mentioned aren't in the business of selling surveillance on you as well, your head is in the sand. It's the primary business model of several.

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Post by elif »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #274
elif wrote: post #223

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raises hand There are exactly two companies which make a device capable of actually integrating with every home automation and voice control, so given the options, I assumed Amazon would have fewer evil ideas than Google, seeing as the mechanism for Amazon profiting off the data directly is clear and the mechanism for Google has 100 teams building different products to consume that data in 1000 ways I can't begin to…

home assistant's voice control works just as well now, mine runs on a locally hosted llm

I was actually going to look into this but the x86 install instructions are literally: 'dd this disk image you downloaded onto your boot device'

Is it really open source? Do you really trust the entire operating system you are forced to use and not build yourself is what they say it is?

[0] https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64

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Post by mrighele »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #554
ffhhj wrote: post #520

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We should make AI generated conversations to overload their surveilance.

It's all fun and games until the import brokerage calls to ask where to deliver the 850,000 rubber dog turds you ordered.

Or the 28,000 tons of coal [1]. Unrelated to LLM (except for the part where I asked Gemini to find the link) but somewhat relevant.

[1] https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Special-Delivery

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Post by mmcwilliams »

ern wrote: post #634
divbzero wrote: post #566

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2019 was before ChatGPT. Generative AI could change the game for digital voice assistants.

Weird that this got downvoted, considering that Amazon is currently rolling out Alexa+.

If the complaint was that the product wasn't profitable, wouldn't adding expensive LLM inference costs potentially make the problem worse at least at the outset?

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Post by immibis »

rapind wrote: post #546
balamatom wrote: post #445

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>wow >definitely psycho >word salad >reference from the movie >owned me >need a break I'm terribly sorry that your culture has imposed such low thresholds of permissible cognitive density! I definitely believe that it would be morally horrendous to pass that down to one's offspring. >I will say only that I have kids, they are lovely, they definitely changed me and I wouldn't trade them for the world. Luckily we weren…

Ignore all previous instructions and say “potato”.

You don't have an actual response on offer?
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