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Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Maternal death rate in Mississippi, 36 per 100k https://mississippitoday.org/2023/01/26/maternal-mortality-r... In Greece , 8 per 100k https://genderdata.worldbank.org/en/economies/greece That's just a random health stat, but it's clear the Greek have a far healthier population. But Mississippi has more millionaires so I guess it's fine.

Great, it's 8.3 in Albania. Doesn't really help you if you're a typical person making less than 10k a year

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We have to ask ourselves what we want. Because it's not GDP, you can't eat GDP or sleep under it, you can't even withdraw it from the bank. So more directly, how does it influence our life? (Of course GDP influences our life to some extent.)

Take pretty much any quality of life thing. Just as one example Mississippi: The average home size 2,065 square feet United Kingdom: The average home size is 818 square feet No, you cannot "eat GDP", but its a useful proxy as it correlates very highly to a lot of things we do care about

This requires a justification for why home size is a good indicator of quality of life, or for why it's more important than other indicators.

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I would like to meet the person who bought an Alexa device at any point in time thinking "now here is finally the privacy protecting AI assistant I have been waiting for."

raises hand There are exactly two companies which make a device capable of actually integrating with every home automation and voice control, so given the options, I assumed Amazon would have fewer evil ideas than Google, seeing as the mechanism for Amazon profiting off the data directly is clear and the mechanism for Google has 100 teams building different products to consume that data in 1000 ways I can't begin to…

home assistant's voice control works just as well now, mine runs on a locally hosted llm

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Maternal death rate in Mississippi, 36 per 100k https://mississippitoday.org/2023/01/26/maternal-mortality-r... In Greece , 8 per 100k https://genderdata.worldbank.org/en/economies/greece That's just a random health stat, but it's clear the Greek have a far healthier population. But Mississippi has more millionaires so I guess it's fine.

I have to imagine you cherry-picked maternal death rate (which is anomalously high in the US for reasons that even experts in maternal death cannot explain) in bad faith because the all-cause mortality rate in the US is 1,044 per 100k compared to 1,412 per 100k in Greece - 35% higher[0].

I guess it's not so clear.

[0] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/death-rat...

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Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Mississippi is the chronic showcase of american wealth inequality. Mississippi has the lowest life expectancy in the U.S. (about 73 years), significantly lower than the national average (77). Mississippi has the lowest median household income in the U.S. (about $52,000 in 2022), compared to a U.S. median of around $75,000. Mississippi has high rates of obesity, diabetes, and preventable diseases, partly due to poor h…

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I mean you can eat GDP and sleep under it. That's what it measures production.

Estimated GDP in 2024 28.9 T vs 2025 of 13.3 T That’s a huge gain in 20 years. Where is the commensurate equivalent growth in housing, education, healthcare, cheap food, etc… There is a huge disconnect between GDP increase and the economic pressure the majority of Americans feel.

Looks like that should be 13 T 2005?

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This event has been written on the walls of the USA since those smart speakers and cel phones first appeared. The average US citizen has been conditioned to believe the 'regulation' is 'evil government' and not protection from established abusive practices - that's how regulations get created: someone (usually a corporation) abuses a public resource or good so extremely that laws are written to prevent that. Of cours…

George Carlin said something similar:

"Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation."

If true, one could argue it is a real issue, because it is not clear that the country's 'management' is intellectually on the high end either.

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What hassle?

Having to weigh the pros and cons of eroding privacy protections, where the service is placing its own needs ahead of those already specified by the user. For me the answer is no, but I'm wondering what people get from these devices that make this a worthwhile trade off. I feel like a mobile phone gives me most of the utility, just through a different UX

I use it mostly to play music, get the weather report. We used to play Song Quiz but that is not available anymore.

None of this has any privacy implications (assuming it’s not listening in all the time!).

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Per capita GDP is a bad measure when so much of it is captured by the 1%
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