I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".
If they worked and were local, why not?
The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
181–190 of 696 posts
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's probably a mix. The computational power to run a dialog system is one thing but it's also just more convenient in terms of maintainance to have the system be completely server side. Of course, getting your sweet voice for future training also helps!
>Of course, getting your sweet voice for future training also helps! There is a setting to disable having your voice saved along with options to automatically delete it after a number of months.
Ok, but then unfortunately we have the trust issue.
Do we trust them, to:
a) do it and not just lie about it totally or partially, and we find out later on when somebody does eventually report it/find out/investigate, if ever happens.
b) even if they intend to really do it, that they do it properly.
If it doesn't reach them, you are 100% sure the data is not there and not at risk (from their end of course). Otherwise is just let's hope for the big corporation with optimizing for most profitability for their stackholders as main objective to do "their best at protecting it's consumers data and privacy".
Which sure... hurting consumers and getting fines aint' great, but not always ends up in less profitability than doing the right thing from the beginning.
Of course... this is not a big deal compared with other stuff, there are alternatives and it's not something you really depend on day to day. Compared with other stuff that is for sure.
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#183How much AI computational power do I need to "set a timer for 8 minutes"? It's all just a sham to take away the little privacy you have left.
We have become absolutely spoiled, now talking with a machine feels like something an arm chip should be able to handle
You can preprogram super cheap chips to do voice commands. They come with limitations but they don't wire tap your home to sell private conversation data to advertising companies to later water board your kids into purchasing thing's on social media
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#184Now is the time to look at Open Home Foundation and their Voice Assistant device which does Speech Processing offline.. Donate! Buy their stuff!
> Now is the time to look at Open Home Foundation and their Voice Assistant device which does Speech Processing offline.. Donate! Buy their stuff!
What about just not using voice assistants period? Do we really need third party cameras and microphones in every part of our homes?
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#185Now would be a good time to have a functional FTC commissioner. Doing a bait and switch like on a product that was sold with a set of features should be illegal. If I buy a car and the sales guy stops by my house the next day to take back the wheels, it would rightfully be seen as ridiculous.
America's lack of customer protection will hurt continue hurting its people. Ladies and gentlemen, please do something about it.
I feel the issue is deeper than that.
We no longer buy products, we rent them, it's hard for consumer protection laws to catch up with that (even European).
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#186People don't really care about privacy, it's as simple as that. Yes, they worry about privacy, and complain about violations of privacy. But if they cared, they never would have purchased this product in the first place. There are bits of technology which violate privacy, but are extremely difficult to fully avoid: Social Media, (I know a lot of HN isn't on it, but how about most of your family and friends?) smart phones, the surveillance of modern stores, etc. All of those are terrifically difficult to fully avoid or mitigate. But not buying an echo is effortless and free. There's no cost associated with not buying one, and not spending the time to set it up.
But, despite the fact that it literally costs nothing, these have sold quite well, and if folks haven't got an echo they've got a Google Home, or a Siri, or something else. They just don't care about privacy, and companies know this.
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
I should have a bit more faith but at this point I feel like the median voter might see their world getting worse but still be convinced somehow that Democrats are behind it because Republicans have their messaging on point and Democrats are doing the equivalent of a silent protest.
Turns out, propoganda really does work. Just takes a few billionaires, a few hostile nations states, and some exploitable algorithms
And a multi-decade effort to shift courts toward a certain flavor of right wing perspective, so you can get a ruling like Citizens United, among others.
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#188I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".
Making an urgent phone call to your spouse while rushing to your kids in the ER without taking your hands off the steering while is a fucking godsend. No matter how broken they are currently, they do have their place, and they work at least a bare minimum.
You should just drive and call later. You are putting yourself, your kids and the people around you at risk by calling someone else while driving, even when keeping your hands no the steering wheel.
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#189People don't really care about privacy, it's as simple as that. Yes, they worry about privacy, and complain about violations of privacy. But if they cared, they never would have purchased this product in the first place. There are bits of technology which violate privacy, but are extremely difficult to fully avoid: Social Media, (I know a lot of HN isn't on it, but how about most of your family and friends?) smart ph…
This kind of apathic statement is not very useful.
By your logic, we should not care about climate change either.
"People don't care about privacy" doesn't mean that regulators and the tech community should not lead a charge.
Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
America's lack of customer protection will hurt continue hurting its people. Ladies and gentlemen, please do something about it.
I feel the issue is deeper than that. We no longer buy products, we rent them, it's hard for consumer protection laws to catch up with that (even European).
How so? The rental vs buy setup is orthogonal to respecting people's privacy.