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Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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America's lack of customer protection will hurt continue hurting its people. Ladies and gentlemen, please do something about it.

Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

It's actually working very well for the US, just not the US consumers

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Thinking about that picture from a (UK?) hospital breakroom with the sign that said "Please turn off the Echo before discussing sensitive patient information."

I will never have anything voice controlled in my house if I can help it. I mean I have them but they're all turned off. Except for the teenager's iphone, but we troll him by saying stuff like "Hey Siri, how do I stop being annoying?" or something like that.

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

This reads more like, 'they're not very good' rather than 'people don't want them'. They could be hugely useful, and even in their current capacity I find are very much so.

I find it maddening that my google home, hasn't got a single bit better in the 8 years since it's release, and it's now missing some of my favourite features it had at launch. The whole market has been stagnate ever since they convinced me to put a microphone in my house, it's almost as if that was their end game.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Now would be a good time to have a functional FTC commissioner. Doing a bait and switch like on a product that was sold with a set of features should be illegal. If I buy a car and the sales guy stops by my house the next day to take back the wheels, it would rightfully be seen as ridiculous.

It was not yours to begin with. Think of it as a service. Just give it back and go to a competitor. Ohh wait, there are no competitors! Monopolies suck! Especially if they are world-wide.

I mean this in a non snarky serious way: these things are a totally unnecessary luxury electronics item. Don’t buy one at all is also an option.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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These are not viable options for the vast majority of users. Most peppe don't have a clue how to set up open source options, let alone set them up with usable hardware. The average consumer wants out of the box solutions that don't require a degree in Computer Science to use.

Home Assistant is getting far easier to set up than you might expect, especially because they now do in fact have out of the box devices. It's not quite as ridiculously simple, not quite yet, but they're rapidly improving and it won't be long until they're better than Amazon Alexa/Google Home/other commercial solutions.

Home assistant is a nightmare to set up. Even with their hardware, you need to learn a whole new vocabulary and God help you if you stay off the happy path.

If HA (which is a wonderful project) is your example of usable OSS software, then your bar is set lightyears away from what actual consumers need.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

People don't always have their hands free or are able to look at a screen. Not everyone is good at typing.

The commenter did mention "except for accessibility reasons".

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

When I'm cooking food and hands dirty, setting a timer with my voice is extremely convenient.

When I'm driving and want to switch ANC mode, it's convenient as well.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Now would be a good time to have a functional FTC commissioner. Doing a bait and switch like on a product that was sold with a set of features should be illegal. If I buy a car and the sales guy stops by my house the next day to take back the wheels, it would rightfully be seen as ridiculous.

And yet this is what Tesla did. They sold a car and added a surcharge for full self-driving as a future option, or they added it as an upgrade option. But they never delivered. That's like buying a car with the promise of wheels but the wheels are never delivered (except you actually need the wheels etc). I'm amazed there haven't been major class-action lawsuits raised against Tesla yet, both from consumers for not d…

That’s different, delivering later (for example probably never) is not the same.

This is about removing a privacy feature.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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It was not yours to begin with. Think of it as a service. Just give it back and go to a competitor. Ohh wait, there are no competitors! Monopolies suck! Especially if they are world-wide.

> Ohh wait, there are no competitors! Sometimes winning move is not to play. If there are no competitors to this, just do not use anything.

Yes boycott is a solution. I don't need Amazon for anything except maybe to buy cheap off-brand toner, and honestly for the time toner can last I could've stayed with the brand.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Is all audio up to “Alexa” still processed on device?

It should, but as far as I know you have zero guarantees about that. I just hope there's privacy organizations and / or hackers that continuously verify these claims. Of course, Amazon can push an update at any time to change this, at which point it'll be too late to think "hmm, 1984 warned us about this".
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