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As a nerd who talks to chatGPT for past year or more while driving to get things done & use it as a knowledge base.. I've been like oh awesome Siri will do just as GPT does once Apple intelligence is released ..oh ok not until a future update ..oh wait now not at all lol
The basic problem here for Apple is that LLMs will never actually be able to avoid prompt injection issues, and the entire "personal awareness" set of functionality they're trying to make uses LLMs. Unless somebody at Apple invents a new state of the art, it's not going to happen. With that said, I'm surprised they haven't yet at least replaced the 'dumb' Siri commands with something that's effectively an LLM transla…
All Apple needs to do is allow 3rd party apps to integrate with Siri, then use an LLM as a way to convert natural language into the set of allowed API calls. Basically similar what chatGPT does with function calling. And on osx, they should have already had a head start due to applescript integration everywhere in most apps. I have no idea why they're trying to reinvent the wheel with "Shortcuts" which is severely li…
the siri division was caught nlp-ing anonymized data and totally sideswiped by llms. they have not transitioned. generally apple finds a Moses (like they did with m1 chips), hires a cracked team to build out but.. the salaries they offer don't touch openai or anthropic and who wants to work with nut that was building out siri initially? the guy is terrible
steve would have gutted the siri team. switched to a <100 person team and they'd have something nice 2025, even unique. apple is the team i expected to have deepseek type innovations on limited hardware. instead she wants to search the internet for what my local humidity levels are.
Been nerd raging here on HN since October cause compared to the same chatGPT app on my iPhone Siri sucks! As a nerd who talks to chatGPT for past year or more while driving to get things done & use it as a knowledge base.. I've been like oh awesome Siri will do just as GPT does once Apple intelligence is released ..oh ok not until a future update ..oh wait now not at all lol
No doubt such gets poo-poo(ed) as I think only 25 to 40 percent of phone users use Siri, Alexa, etc. a lot don't use it cause it just hadn't worked well for them to privacy concerns. But innovation and Apple is getting reamed for not being innovative.. not even matching what the chatGPT app offers.
The basic problem here for Apple is that LLMs will never actually be able to avoid prompt injection issues, and the entire "personal awareness" set of functionality they're trying to make uses LLMs. Unless somebody at Apple invents a new state of the art, it's not going to happen. With that said, I'm surprised they haven't yet at least replaced the 'dumb' Siri commands with something that's effectively an LLM transla…
All Apple needs to do is allow 3rd party apps to integrate with Siri, then use an LLM as a way to convert natural language into the set of allowed API calls. Basically similar what chatGPT does with function calling. And on osx, they should have already had a head start due to applescript integration everywhere in most apps. I have no idea why they're trying to reinvent the wheel with "Shortcuts" which is severely li…
It’s not perfect, but surely you could natural language -> llm -> temporary shortcut script and that gets you a decent part of the way to a smarter Siri
I have an android phone and switching google assistant to gemini made it worse for the fairly basic things I actually use google assistant for, like setting reminders, so I switched it back. Are people really clamoring for AI in the voice assistant on their phone?
siri was under performing for years: im a 'heavy' user - it's been terrible. it worked better in 2012 and slowly got worse. it's acceptable in 2025 but not good. the siri division was caught nlp-ing anonymized data and totally sideswiped by llms. they have not transitioned. generally apple finds a Moses (like they did with m1 chips), hires a cracked team to build out but.. the salaries they offer don't touch openai o…
Who are you referring to?
The basic problem here for Apple is that LLMs will never actually be able to avoid prompt injection issues, and the entire "personal awareness" set of functionality they're trying to make uses LLMs. Unless somebody at Apple invents a new state of the art, it's not going to happen. With that said, I'm surprised they haven't yet at least replaced the 'dumb' Siri commands with something that's effectively an LLM transla…
I’m not sure I want / need an LLM for the handful of basic commands I want Siri to do in the car with no complication. Siri is good at some straightforward command patterns. And that’s how users have been trained. Adding an LLM feels like a solution looking for a problem
When I bought the new iphone (coming from Android most recently and iphone before that) I figured that Siri would actually become good because of this translation layer, and then them just not doing that has been a huge let down for me on the phone.
The world can do without learning the merits of putting glue on pizza, visualizing black Nazis, and chat bots that advise users to commit suicide.
If it only it could f*ckin understand me! Whisper (or whatever the ChatGPT app uses) runs rings around. Basically zero errors.
For me they just need to fix the goddamn voice recognition performance.