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Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by linotype »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #20
linotype wrote: post #3

Canada should take up the issue with Trump, not with Americans. I didn’t vote for Trump. I know only a handful of people that did. I highly doubt most of the people attending GDC did. No need to be a fair weather friend, in four years Trump will be gone and normalcy will be restored.

In this case, I believe Canadians are taking issue with the treatment they may get at the border. They don't want to be sent to detention because of a simple misunderstanding with an over zealous border security guard who is scared of losing their job if they accidentally let the left one in.

My wife was threatened with not being allowed into the country due to a DUI (in the US) from five years ago. We had to pay a $250 fee to spend three days in Victoria.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

linotype wrote: post #19
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually found most of the commentary on HN to be on the "holy shit what the hell is he doing, this is crazy and awful" side, as opposed to supportive of it. Which gives me hope. There seem to be down votes in the other direction, at times, but 1) they seem to get balanced back after a while and 2) the down votes don't often come with any useful commentary, often with none at all - which, for me, I also find com…

I expected my comment to get downvoted due to the anger (rightfully so) from Canadians. People don’t seem to understand that most Americans didn’t vote for Trump and that those that did probably didn’t want him to attack Canada, of all countries.

Your original comment just sounded MAGA!

You've softened it considerably with the added explanation.

I think, however, most Canadians (and the rest of the world) know it's a minority opinion in the US, but that doesn't change the fact that 1) there were enough people in the US that voted him in 2) there weren't enough people in the US that voted opposing him and, most importantly, 3) it's the ensuing behaviour of "the system" that's having this chilling effect on relations - it's not individually personal.

Having said that, it's probably important for as many of the US voting public as possible to reiterate that it's not "individually personal" as often as possible to keep eroding any building notions that it could be.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by [deleted] »

3vidence wrote: post #10
linotype wrote: post #3

Canada should take up the issue with Trump, not with Americans. I didn’t vote for Trump. I know only a handful of people that did. I highly doubt most of the people attending GDC did. No need to be a fair weather friend, in four years Trump will be gone and normalcy will be restored.

America aggressively trying to question Canadian sovereignty makes Canada the fareweather friend..... Got it. With friend like these who needs enemies. The American ignorance on this site is really starting to drive me away.

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Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by [deleted] »

jszymborski wrote: post #8
linotype wrote: post #3

Canada should take up the issue with Trump, not with Americans. I didn’t vote for Trump. I know only a handful of people that did. I highly doubt most of the people attending GDC did. No need to be a fair weather friend, in four years Trump will be gone and normalcy will be restored.

I like imagining this clever retort oozing from the lips of someone who has had their birthday invitation refused after punching their 8 year old school mate in the stomach.

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Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by linotype »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #22
linotype wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expected my comment to get downvoted due to the anger (rightfully so) from Canadians. People don’t seem to understand that most Americans didn’t vote for Trump and that those that did probably didn’t want him to attack Canada, of all countries.

Your original comment just sounded MAGA! You've softened it considerably with the added explanation. I think, however, most Canadians (and the rest of the world) know it's a minority opinion in the US, but that doesn't change the fact that 1) there were enough people in the US that voted him in 2) there weren't enough people in the US that voted opposing him and, most importantly, 3) it's the ensuing behaviour of "th…

Yeah I guess I’ll just have to deal with it. This site already was pretty anti-US, now it’s just ramped up. Maybe it’s time to stop reading the comments. Like there’s nothing I can do about Trump, I only have one vote in California.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by kennysoona »

ahartmetz wrote: post #4
linotype wrote: post #3

Canada should take up the issue with Trump, not with Americans. I didn’t vote for Trump. I know only a handful of people that did. I highly doubt most of the people attending GDC did. No need to be a fair weather friend, in four years Trump will be gone and normalcy will be restored.

I think non-fairweather friends are about them staying with you when you're in trouble. This is you CAUSING them trouble on purpose.

The belief that has rapidly spread among the right is that Canada is somehow to blame.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by kennysoona »

linotype wrote: post #25
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your original comment just sounded MAGA! You've softened it considerably with the added explanation. I think, however, most Canadians (and the rest of the world) know it's a minority opinion in the US, but that doesn't change the fact that 1) there were enough people in the US that voted him in 2) there weren't enough people in the US that voted opposing him and, most importantly, 3) it's the ensuing behaviour of "th…

Yeah I guess I’ll just have to deal with it. This site already was pretty anti-US, now it’s just ramped up. Maybe it’s time to stop reading the comments. Like there’s nothing I can do about Trump, I only have one vote in California.

If things keep going everyone like they are you, and me, are going to have to do something, or we may just be sitting by as the democracy is irreversibly damaged.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by text0404 »

YZF wrote: post #7
healsdata wrote: post #5

At this point, why would you travel to the US? People with valid visas and green cards are being denied entry, strip searched, detained indefinitely, and denied prescription medicine. The government is ignoring judicial orders regarding immigration and deportation. 1. https://www.luxtimes.lu/luxembourg/us-resident-violently-int... 2. https://www.newsweek.com/rubio-touts-migrants-sent-el-salvad...

What percentage of travelers are running into problems? How does that compare to other countries? How does it compare to your probability of being detained where you are anyways? Not to belittle the anecdotal issues but without any baseline or comparison this is meaningless scare mongering. People are denied entry, detained and strip searches in every border all over the world, every day, all the time. If you think s…

these incidents - among an escalating number of other, similar incidents - are a grave betrayal of the US’ purported values, especially when it claims to be morally better than "other countries" who routinely violate the rights of people who aren't breaking any laws (in one case, literal torture techniques were used on a permanent resident of the US).

furthermore, the point is to call these things out as soon as they happen in order to prevent a situation where these occurrences become statistically significant enough for you to pay attention. the idea is to prevent wide-scale violations, not to sit back and allow them to continue until it reaches a point of normalization.

Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by [deleted] »

linotype wrote: post #21
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, I believe Canadians are taking issue with the treatment they may get at the border. They don't want to be sent to detention because of a simple misunderstanding with an over zealous border security guard who is scared of losing their job if they accidentally let the left one in.

My wife was threatened with not being allowed into the country due to a DUI (in the US) from five years ago. We had to pay a $250 fee to spend three days in Victoria.

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Re: Canadian Devs Are Backing Out of Attending GDC

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Post by ahartmetz »

linotype wrote: post #17
ahartmetz wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think non-fairweather friends are about them staying with you when you're in trouble. This is you CAUSING them trouble on purpose.

I didn’t vote for Trump.

These Canadians might be fine with you. They aren't fine with the US. Don't take it personally I guess?
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