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> Steer away from skills like web development that are clearly getting eaten by LLMs On the contrary, here in my corner of EU nearly 60% of new jobs are frontend or full stack. Anything else left is mostly SAP consultant or DevOps. I think, the whole WebDev is dead end is just false lies to dissuade new entrants. Literally most successful business with a digital solution is web stuff with some automation that would o…
There's another factor here I forgot to mention - web development, as a specialization, tends to be paid less and has a lower career ceiling in many companies than backend and infra engineering. This is a personal observation on my part but I've seen many other people remark on this. True full stack engineering, I think, is reasonably safe from the robots at the moment. If someone likes building products, I'd basical…
Career Advice in 2025
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Steer away from skills like web development that are clearly getting eaten by LLMs. You had it going well there but then had to ruin it with a take like that. If you’re talking about your trivial, github-filled example scenarios of frontend, sure. But then we could say the same for all other roles, including backend logic that’s regurgitated all the time. Like with everything else, the non-trivial bits need work an…
Except that they’re right, a your “non-trivial bits” will like 5% and rest will be dealing with idiots copy pasting AI slop.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Front-End interfaces can be as complex (or more complex) than Back-End/infra/analytics/etc... At the end of the day, it is all about data and the front-end needs to maintain state. If your interface is complex, your state will also be complex.
Theoretically - yes, practically, on average, any of the things you’ve listed is far, far, far more complex than your average frontend that is basically glue between “real” logic and user.
Front-End is complex which is why we have 36362 libraries to solve the same problem and still move user interfaces sucks.
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#94The statement >The current market doesn’t value those skills particularly highly, but instead prioritizes a different set of skills: working in the details, pushing pace, and navigating the technology transition to foundational models / LLMs. depends on the assumption that technology must "transition" to "foundational models / LLMs". The author doesn't seem to interrogate this assumption. In fact, most of the career…
I do think some transitions are inevitable and not because AI must be used, but because once enough companies figure out where it genuinely improves efficiency, the competitive pressure to follow suit becomes real
It isnt always a bad idea to wait until trendlines are clear.
LLMs will not go away but it's still not at all clear what skills investment should be made to respond to that.
Ive learned a ton about obsolete tech in the past and ive even learned a ton about LLMs in the last year that ended up becoming obsolete.
Re: Career Advice in 2025
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> I feel you have a bleak view of frontend as a whole First of all, let me say, I love frontend. I spent probably a decade building products and tools almost entirely on the frontend. I enjoy interfaces and workflows and visualizations. I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking frontend or frontend developers. > often filled with plugins/apps/micro-frontends/libraries > It’s much, much harder to go and debug why yo…
> I enjoy interfaces and workflows and visualizations. I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking frontend or frontend developers. I hope you mean that but it's hard to see it that way based on your original comment and responses. The trope of "frontend is not a serious job" has been infuriatingly going on for a long time before LLMs took the center stage and that seeps out of the things you've said so far. But, I'm…
Eh, sorry I came across that way. To me, seeing a complex system visualized, making it interactive, is just so beautiful. That's a big part of why I got into frontend in the first place. I wouldn't take anyone seriously who doesn't think frontend is a serious job.
I also suspect that you are doing more complex, and finely judged frontend work than I did - I took a peek at your public profile ;). So it's not surprising that we have different impressions. If someone is building a frontend that needs to work seamlessly for billions of people across many devices, that sounds incredibly challenging and frankly I've never even tried to do that so I can't even comment on it.
But, I would say that a lot of the frontend work that I find interesting can now be automated with LLMs. Historically, I've tended to build internal tools that usually had a fixed runtime environment and small number of users. So I'm not as worried about the fine points of the web, but about creating a lot of features and interactivity in a particular, easily tested environment. I would wager that the average frontend developer is doing work somewhere in between the two of us.
> you can apply these _exact_ arguments to a _shockingly_ large portion of backend too
Hmm, I think we just disagree here. I think a lot of my view comes down to how frontend ultimately needs to collapse into something that can be visualized and interacted with, and this helps force the state to evolve in sane ways. On the other hand, I think backends quickly grow from a spreadsheet to insane, highly-dimensional, highly-coupled nightmares that no one can really visualize anymore, first at the logic level and later at the architecture and schema levels.
Ultimately LLMs are helpful when they can sort of grok the overall structure and plan of your code and add stuff helpfully to it. I think that LLMs have more public examples of frontend codebases and that helps them follow the overall structure a bit better. In my experience, LLMs are doing a bit better in trying to add small features to large frontend codebases than to large backend codebases, probably for this reason.
Finally, you can often define what changes are wanted on the frontend fairly precisely. A series of mockups plus descriptions of the interactions carries a lot of detail. On the other hand, backend changes often interact implicitly with unstated business context that you can't get solely from the backend code itself (this become particularly tough when you try text-2-SQL, for example.) So I think many backend and architectural changes have inherently vague specifications that need to lean heavily on context that's not captured in the ticket.
None of this is meant to undermine the seriousness or difficulty of frontend as a profession. But it is still my opinion that, on average, LLMs have a better chance of doing useful things on the frontend than the backend.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
A good signal is you get pissed off with LLMs because they hinder your job. Even if you tried in earnest to use them.
that sounds more like someone needs anger management classes than a problem with technology or LLMs
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#97Some more free advice, in no particular order: * Try to get at least one job offer every year, even if you don't accept it. * Look at the requirements for your dream job and figure out what you need to learn to qualify. * Pick one skill and get very good at it. Spend an hour a day on it for a year. * Steer away from skills like web development that are clearly getting eaten by LLMs. * Look for work in major U.S. tech…
> Steer away from skills like web development that are clearly getting eaten by LLMs On the contrary, here in my corner of EU nearly 60% of new jobs are frontend or full stack. Anything else left is mostly SAP consultant or DevOps. I think, the whole WebDev is dead end is just false lies to dissuade new entrants. Literally most successful business with a digital solution is web stuff with some automation that would o…
There are millions of small businesses that demand wordpress websites, but the barrier to entry to support and build systems got very low very quickly. Professional developers were competing with high school students and offshore devs for work.
As a backend Developer, I can now build websites easily with Claude and react. I think web development, especially front end, will be like knowing HTML and CSS in 2015. Like everyone should know it, and thus not even worth putting on your resume.
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#98I get why someone would want to tell people this, but I think it fails to be advice, as it describes the current state of affairs without much actual guidance for how to do better in it Which, to be fair, no one really seems to be able to answer that meaningfully
The real answer is, leaders chase trends, so to keep them satisfied you need to also chase trends. Some advises can be: * learn prompt engineering to impress your boss and next employer * adapt AI IDE at work, of course don’t go for cline or freemium ones, go for max expensive tier of Cursor/Windsurf/v0 etc * Take some expensive(more the better) courses and workshops on Agentic topics, build some small projects. Just…
You mean make them terrified of debugging your code after you have moved on?
Re: Career Advice in 2025
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I enjoy interfaces and workflows and visualizations. I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking frontend or frontend developers. I hope you mean that but it's hard to see it that way based on your original comment and responses. The trope of "frontend is not a serious job" has been infuriatingly going on for a long time before LLMs took the center stage and that seeps out of the things you've said so far. But, I'm…
> The trope of "frontend is not a serious job" has been infuriatingly going on for a long time before LLMs took the center stage and that seeps out of the things you've said so far. Eh, sorry I came across that way. To me, seeing a complex system visualized, making it interactive, is just so beautiful. That's a big part of why I got into frontend in the first place. I wouldn't take anyone seriously who doesn't think…
But I think there is a huge chunk of work, which most people think of as front end, which is displaying pre computed data according to a particular pattern, and providing hooks into the backend for additional interactivity. I think that this piece can be largely done by LLMs now.
Re: Career Advice in 2025
#100Some more free advice, in no particular order: * Try to get at least one job offer every year, even if you don't accept it. * Look at the requirements for your dream job and figure out what you need to learn to qualify. * Pick one skill and get very good at it. Spend an hour a day on it for a year. * Steer away from skills like web development that are clearly getting eaten by LLMs. * Look for work in major U.S. tech…