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Re: A look at Firefox forks

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I tried Sidebery for a couple of months off the back of multiple recommendations and while it has some decent features, I found it surprisingly lacking in terms of basic features like "close multiple tabs". I also found it regularly would semi-regularly prevent me from clicking on tabs which was frustrating until I restarted the extension or Firefox. In the end I found good old Tree Style Tabs was better. I just wish…

I use Sidebery a lot and I'd like to know what exactly you mean by "close multiple tabs"? I currently drag with right click in Sidebery and then click close tabs in the popup menu, however I don't really like doing this way. How is it done in Tree Style Tabs?

In Tree Style Tab, you can shift-click to select a contiguous range of tabs and then use the right-click menu to close them all.

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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Try Sidebery extension. It has nested tabs, workspaces and much much more.

I tried Sidebery for a couple of months off the back of multiple recommendations and while it has some decent features, I found it surprisingly lacking in terms of basic features like "close multiple tabs". I also found it regularly would semi-regularly prevent me from clicking on tabs which was frustrating until I restarted the extension or Firefox. In the end I found good old Tree Style Tabs was better. I just wish…

> In the end I found good old Tree Style Tabs was better. I just wish it had an easier UX for creating named tab groups.

Try Simple Tab Groups. Been using it in conjunction with Tree Style Tab for a long time.

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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> it brings up a modal dialog in the center of the screen Incredibly tiny modal dialog. I just tried checked one, and it fit 65 characters. Compared to firefox right now, after 112 characters the URL bar is slightly over halfway filled.

Fits 212 characters on mine.

Yup, as I was told in another comment, it requires changing to "Multiple Toolbars or Collapsed Toolbar" instead of changing the URL bar setting, which is not exactly obvious. Posted from Zen for now ;)

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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I recently did this exercise as well. There are a lot of browsers not mentioned that you can find here,[0] but there's one big missing one imo. The Tor browser is forked from Firefox to support the Tor Network. On top of the actual tor network it's filled to the brim with novel and unique privacy enhancing features. Mullvad (the VPN company) recently did a partnership with Tor to create the Mullvad Browser.[1] It's e…

Tangent, how does “mullvad” sound to native speakers (and non-natives too)? I can’t tell why, but it feels like such an unfortunate combination of phonemes that I avoid even looking into it subconsciously. Can barely force myself to pronounce it, is that just me?

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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I recently did this exercise as well. There are a lot of browsers not mentioned that you can find here,[0] but there's one big missing one imo. The Tor browser is forked from Firefox to support the Tor Network. On top of the actual tor network it's filled to the brim with novel and unique privacy enhancing features. Mullvad (the VPN company) recently did a partnership with Tor to create the Mullvad Browser.[1] It's e…

Tangent, how does “mullvad” sound to native speakers (and non-natives too)? I can’t tell why, but it feels like such an unfortunate combination of phonemes that I avoid even looking into it subconsciously. Can barely force myself to pronounce it, is that just me?

It's just another foreign-sounding word in a language full of kidnapped vocabulary

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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The fact that the Mozilla CEO makes over $6,000,000.00 per year is a complete betrayal of what Firefox was. How could anyone justify donating to Firefox knowing that so much of their money would be going to this one person?

> fact that the Mozilla CEO makes over $6,000,000.00 per year is a complete betrayal of what Firefox was Mozilla’s donations are roughly equal to their CEO’s compensation [1][2]. (I’ve donated to Mozilla before and recently brought in friends who gave 6+ figures. I’ve been encouraging them to, and they’ve been successful so far in, charging back for those donations.) [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annua…

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Re: A look at Firefox forks

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post #364

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Tangent, how does “mullvad” sound to native speakers (and non-natives too)? I can’t tell why, but it feels like such an unfortunate combination of phonemes that I avoid even looking into it subconsciously. Can barely force myself to pronounce it, is that just me?

It's just another foreign-sounding word in a language full of kidnapped vocabulary

Mullvad is Swedish for "mole". Mull is a word for soil, and "vad" seems to come from "vada", wade. So translated it would be "soilwade".

To me, it sounds like just another word.

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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For years I've thought of creating a "paid" Firefox fork that is _just_ Firefox rebranded, but otherwise the exact codebase. The money brought in would be used to pay an open source developer to work strictly on things intended to be sent upstream to the Mozilla Firefox. If nothing else, it would prove whether or not people are willing to pay for Firefox. The problem with Firefox currently is the organizational struc…

Idk about others, I’d pay one time for specific features done once and never touched again. Cause I can measure my suffering and workarounds costs, and I have a sense of efforts and ownership.

I’d even pay for forks of software that simply allow to modify their basic internals without providing any specific features, so I could augment them with programming without hard reveng (which often fails with no result). Like setting custom shortcuts in firefox.

But software doesn’t offer that. It wants me to pay monthly money for features I don’t really like on average, and they may take away anything in the next update, irreversibly. Just because someone felt like doing so, cause users can’t take away paid money in return.

I guess I wanted to say that “willing to pay” depends on what you are selling. And what “they” are selling is usually some no-guarantees always mutating fad rather than features you need.

There’s another nuance in supporting existing software even without new features. These costs are already way above all limits and must be forced down by re-designing text and image scrolling to where it should be, complexity-wise.

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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post #292

I recently did this exercise as well. There are a lot of browsers not mentioned that you can find here,[0] but there's one big missing one imo. The Tor browser is forked from Firefox to support the Tor Network. On top of the actual tor network it's filled to the brim with novel and unique privacy enhancing features. Mullvad (the VPN company) recently did a partnership with Tor to create the Mullvad Browser.[1] It's e…

Tangent, how does “mullvad” sound to native speakers (and non-natives too)? I can’t tell why, but it feels like such an unfortunate combination of phonemes that I avoid even looking into it subconsciously. Can barely force myself to pronounce it, is that just me?

To native Swedish speakers it will look and sound like just another common Swedish word. And in the context it will even sound like a relevant choice of name.

/me is Danish, and the Danish equivalent would be ‘muldvarp’.

Re: A look at Firefox forks

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Zen looks like Arc Browser, but Firefox-based and open-source. Exactly what I'm looking for! The UX pattern for tabs in Arc is amazing. No, it's not just "vertical tabs". It's an innovative blend of the concepts of bookmarks and open tabs. Sort of like files: they can be open or closed, and live in a folder hierarchy. But the development of Arc stopped half a year ago (except security Chromium updates), with a well-w…

Ironic to provide compact interface leaving bighugefat spacing intact.
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