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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

ndriscoll wrote: post #113
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"already allowed to download youtube videos" Sure, but it is not users that ultimately make that policy choice, and may be rescinded at any time. Thus, still seems lame... Most streaming platforms have fragile resolution fail-back thresholds, and rightfully discourage camping on CDN host connections for 10 times longer than most of the users. These days the amount of media data people consume in a year will be dispro…

At least for my circumstance, Comcast has a 1.2TB/month limit before they hit you with hefty fees. If I stored my entire 14.4 TB/year, that'd cost ~$150 worth of disks (and not even require a full disk). So the storage for a full year of data use (Comcast alleges the actual average use is ~500 GB/mo) is less than the cost of a single subscription service. If you use a file more than once, that works out even better.…

We agree most content is only viewed once, and thus DRM is still pointless in terms of advertising revenue from people that likely won't buy anything in the first place.

Both YT premium and Netflix is around $100/yr, and I seriously doubt you will find 14TB consumer storage media at that cost. It is a silly behavior for sure =3

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by mschoch »

999900000999 wrote: post #129
Gigachad wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Youtube downloaders are essential for backup purposes and for getting clips to put in your own videos as fair use. But people turning them in to fully user facing ad free frontends are driving the crackdown on the tools so we will end up with no way at all to download videos.. Would be nice if Youtube just let premium users download the actual video files. What I find interesting is how so many of the Chinese…

> how so many of the Chinese social media platforms just let you download videos The rate things are going I’ll just have to use those sites instead. YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. A good middle ground would be for YouTube to just give uploaders an option to enable downloads. I do agree that people need to STOP trying to make yt-dl…

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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by mschoch »

codetrotter wrote: post #109
modmodmod wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so, essentially, what you are saying is that yt-dlp should have never been open-sourced/published and ever posted on HN (so that not even you would have found out about it)?

No no. He’s saying that only people with his exact amount of technical skill and prowess deserves yt-dlp. If you for some reason are not knowledgable about cli tools, then that is the exact, natural, universal, god given reason that you do not deserve yt-dlp. In order to ensure that not too many people learn about yt-dlp, we should also work to remove all access to knowledge about the magical super big brain requirin…

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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by nadermx »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #68

I kind of wish people would stop making yt-dlp more accessible and increasing Google's desire to shut it down.

Not sure it was ever youtubes desire to shut it down. Why would they, as there are a multitude of reasons why someone would want a video off a platform. It was the RIAA's, since there the ones who sent the takedown.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

Seems it needs docker and/or NodeJS and runs as a server, so not something most of the non technical users out there would use. This makes widespread adoption unlikely.

If it was packaged as a single executable electron app on the other hand, that would be another story.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by dinkblam »

great to see this, absolutely need to try it out.

it is awful that a paid subscription product like YouTube does actually aim to give their (paying) users the worst experience possible by only ever showing stuff i do NOT want to see and offering no way to disable or customize things. honestly, is there anyone happy with their offering?

but will this or anything similar ever run on FireTV / Samsung?

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by dinkblam »

Arainach wrote: post #96
freehorse wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way to pay google to get features like these or like what yt-dlp offers. If there was I would have gladly paid.

You can pay for YouTube Premium and get no ads.

even if they are no ads, they still show you 99% only shit with no way to disable it. no i don't want "Shorts". no i don't want the "Gaming" or "Movie" tabs. no i don't ever want to see a video containing words like "reaction". why no customization?

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by modmodmod »

dinkblam wrote: post #136

great to see this, absolutely need to try it out. it is awful that a paid subscription product like YouTube does actually aim to give their (paying) users the worst experience possible by only ever showing stuff i do NOT want to see and offering no way to disable or customize things. honestly, is there anyone happy with their offering? but will this or anything similar ever run on FireTV / Samsung?

Awesome! Have some things cooking for the future, hope to see your feedback if you can

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by sieabahlpark »

modmodmod wrote: post #94
tracerbulletx wrote: post #68

I kind of wish people would stop making yt-dlp more accessible and increasing Google's desire to shut it down.

so, essentially, what you are saying is that yt-dlp should have never been open-sourced/published and ever posted on HN (so that not even you would have found out about it)?

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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Post by thomassmith65 »

nadermx wrote: post #134
tracerbulletx wrote: post #68

I kind of wish people would stop making yt-dlp more accessible and increasing Google's desire to shut it down.

Not sure it was ever youtubes desire to shut it down. Why would they, as there are a multitude of reasons why someone would want a video off a platform. It was the RIAA's, since there the ones who sent the takedown.

This year AlphaGoogle has an initiative to kill ad-blockers. To that end, Youtube now aborts playback after 60 seconds if it cannot contact its ad server to play commercials.

It's clear where this is heading:

1) Youtube will go after software like yt-dlp to ensure only AlphaGoogle-sanctioned players can play its videos

2) Youtube will encode commercials directly into the videos it streams

Both will come to pass. It's not 'if' but 'when'

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