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Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

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Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#21
I haven't bought any non-Apple computers or phones in ages, but I just succumbed to the lure of the Nexus 7.

It's fantastic, and a great all-around device. It surfs the web, does Gmail, and hooks up to bluetooth, with a great battery life.

As far as I'm concerned, that's near enough iPad functionality for half the cost.

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

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post #7

People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…

It has been 30 years of this crap.

During most of which Apple really was "beleaguered," and, as such, a crappy stock to hold.

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#23

"After all, during his too-brief, once-in-a-century career, he radically disrupted at least seven industries: personal computing, desktop software, music, mobile phones, publishing, tablet computers, and Hollywood animation" Completely OT, but I thought it was interesting to note that the time difference between the first mobile phone and the first commercially successful smartphone (1973-2007) and the time differenc…

I love my iPhone, but calling it the first commercially successful smartphone is willfully ignorant of the Blackberry.

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#24

They haven't had a product that people lust after in a long time. In fact, with other tablets now viable competitors, I'd say their laptops are their most lust-inducing product out there. I just don't know how they can regain that level of desirability without disrupting another vertical. Or if they make some truly radical hardware innovations, such that it is visible and will make it obvious that you are using an Ap…

The iPad was released less than three years ago. What's your definition of 'a long time'?

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

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post #7

People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…

Steve Jobs suggests that Apple didn't innovate while he wasn't there ( http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/19/steve-jobs-apple-almost-... ). The question is then does Apple, without Jobs, have the visionaries and the management team supporting those visionaries to pioneer very specific markets to continue earning billions in the future. I'd guess that over the next few years a Google Glass-style device is ready for the…

Apple did still innovate (the Newton, anyone?), just... pathetically.

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#27

I decided not to read the article when I saw that Time was accusing the 22nd largest company in the world [1] of being in decline. Time lost its shine with the decline of print media. http://www.forbes.com/global2000/#p_3_s_a0_All%20industries_...

Along with every single other print publication, not just Time. Misguided statement there, buddy.

How does that make his statement misguided?

Even if I accept your premise that every single other print publication has declined as well, that doesn't make his statement any less true. The statement was only about Time.

And I certainly don't accept your premise.

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#28
post #9

Can Apple do anything other than lose its shine? Is it possible for it to get shinier? I mean, it already has the world's highest market cap and is revered in a way the subsequent next highest market cap companies aren't (Exxon, MS, Wal-mart). It's like a basketball player who makes 100 free throws in a row, misses a couple, and people wonder what the hell happened to him/her.

Or more like a basketball player who swishes 100 free throws in a row, makes the next one but catches a little rim...

Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?

#29
So tedious.

Apple is extremely well positioned in front of almost every mass trend happening in consumer electronics. They are sitting on a tenth of a trillion dollars in cash. They have content deals with more companies in more places than almost anyone else on Earth. They are ending investment in unfruitful markets. They have a rapidly converging consumer platform that has essentially no identifiable competitive weaknesses. Investor confidence is thunderingly high. They're headquartered in an extremely pro-business nation and feted as the last great American wonder business with all that implies politically. They have a global retail arm that defies everything known about retail. Their manufacturing pipeline shames former industry leaders. Their litigation is top-notch. Their customer goodwill is limitless and serves to smooth over many failures in execution and experience.

They are, even if all goes dark tomorrow, one of the greatest successes in our industry that we will see in our lives. So as someone put above: if Apple can survive iPod Socks and the G4 Cube, they can probably survive whatever some stringer for Time is reading in the tea leaves.

Does anyone have any actual concerns about actual Apple as it pertains to the actual real world? I'll start:

- Their push for a tax holiday is going to go over extremely poorly in an election year

- Their extremely slow iPhone hardware update cycle leaves them vulnerable to fast-evolving competitors and a single bad product will poison the well for years

- The colossal amount of value stored nowadays in a single Apple ID means the damage from a security breach or intrusion is astronomical

- Apple has nothing interesting or heartening to say about their law enforcement policies vis a vis the data they collect

- Stitched leatherette Contacts

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