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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by allturtles »

davidw wrote: post #65
Auracle wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article makes awful conclusions. Biden’s age was a bigger factor because it was absolutely clear he was in rapid cognitive decline. No doubt it’s also happened to Trump at his age (as it does to everyone), but Biden essentially hid from any unscripted press the entirety of his Presidency. Trump does the opposite. We can all judge his actual cognitive faculties because he’s constantly tweeting or in front of came…

But once he was out of the race and there was only one old guy, age ceased to become an issue. That's what makes what they're doing kind of insidious. They're not making things up - Biden is indeed old. It's how they weight things and how much they push them. There's a reason the "NYT Pitch Bot" account is so popular - it's poking fun at a real phenomenon.

Are you claiming that the NYT is biased in favor of Trump? That's so hard to take seriously that I don't even know what to say to that.

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Post by bee_rider »

chneu wrote: post #44
dmix wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need employees anymore just anonymous sources from "government insiders" by journalists who gain social/work credit from being friends with intelligence officials. The quid pro quo is implied and unquestioned because it sells papers. NYT/WSJ/WaPo are the main vectors for that stuff (big journalist outfits get big juicy sources) and they do it proudly.

I'm not saying I disagree, but please see how dangerous your thinking can be. That basically takes away a major tool of journalists and allows you to paint whoever you disagree with as wrong simply because they don't wish to go public. Very, very dangerous way of thinking. Allowing sourcesto stay anonymous is a major tool for journalists.

The word of anonymous sources should be taken with a pretty big grain of salt, but they can point to verifiable information.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by rediguanayum »

luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Consider that technology may have moved on, and there are other better ways to communicate with journalists: https://www.nytimes.com/tips e.g. Signal and to read NYTimes e.g. high quality VPN.

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Post by throwaway48476 »

realusername wrote: post #53
lordofgibbons wrote: post #31

NYTimes lost any and all credibility when they hired a literal Israeli Military Intelligence propagandist to write the their headline shock inducing piece on 40 beheaded babies, infants in ovens, and mass rape. These have all been widely been debunked, including by Israeli media. But NYT never retracted their propaganda piece. This gave a free hand for the IDF, with U.S backing, to commit mass murder on an industrial…

It's always been a very bad newspaper internationally, we could mention the Irak war cover or the constant attacks of EU countries.

Or covering for Stalin and denying the famine in ukraine.

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Post by bee_rider »

Auracle wrote: post #63
davidw wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found this story pretty enlightening https://css.seas.upenn.edu/new-york-times-a-case-study-in-in... It's certainly not that they come up with outright lies. They have a ton of good people who work there. But there's something rotten higher up in the way they put their finger on the scales.

That article makes awful conclusions. Biden’s age was a bigger factor because it was absolutely clear he was in rapid cognitive decline. No doubt it’s also happened to Trump at his age (as it does to everyone), but Biden essentially hid from any unscripted press the entirety of his Presidency. Trump does the opposite. We can all judge his actual cognitive faculties because he’s constantly tweeting or in front of came…

Hey what is up with Biden’s rapid decline nowadays, anyway? I guess considering the rate he was apparently declining when it was a hot-button political issue, by now he must be a vegetable by now, right?

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Post by lxgr »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #5

> Users who wish to continue reading Times journalism where their access to the main website may be blocked can do so through WhatsApp or Telegram. elsewhere, > Apple Says It Was Ordered to Pull WhatsApp From China App Store https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/technology/apple-whatsapp...

The service itself isn’t available in China either anyway, I think.

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Post by drweevil »

spyspy wrote: post #13
noident wrote: post #3

WhatsApp and Telegram are hardly replacements for Tor access. A government can block them easily. The onion service's days were numbered after they fired Runa Sandvik. I'm surprised it lasted this long. Looking at the pay and current labor disputes, it seems like the New York Times isn't a good place for a skilled software engineer to work these days. They'll keep running SecureDrop over an onion service, right...?

Runa was a gem. Her firing was a huge blow to the company. Nobody of any note lasts very long at NYT.

Amen to that. I should have known she was behind the Tor link, which I used often. I'm disappointed in the Times. Nothing new there.

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Post by spyspy »

c0nducktr wrote: post #66
spyspy wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then you introduce a subscription model and people decry how the good news is paywalled…

When the paywalled model is just as unwilling to go against its advertisers as the free model, it not surprising people aren't happy with the change.

Ok so there's nothing they can do. Got it.

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Post by skwirl »

luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

If you went back to 2004 and told people the NYT was trying to help re-elect George W Bush they would nervously back away slowly from you.
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