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Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by fransje26 »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #12
Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

> The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

It looks like this entire nonsense is heavily going to hurt the wallets of more than half of the population. So why would they be so keen to vote for a theocracy?

Although at this stage I also wouldn't put it past the clowns in power to actively tamper with elections to get the results they want.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by 9283409232 »

narutosasuke wrote: post #43
9283409232 wrote: post #13

Some information from the linked document about the non-profits that are being targeted. > 2. Conflicts of Interest and Political Favoritism > A $2 billion grant was awarded to Power Forward Communities, a new nonprofit with ties to Stacey Abrams, despite reporting only $100 in total revenue in 2023 > Young, Gifted & Green was awarded $20 million, even though its CEO applied for funding while serving on the White Hou…

Power Forward Communities: A coalition of five nonprofit organizations — Enterprise Community Partners, Habitat for Humanity International, Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC), Rewiring America and United Way Worldwide. Abrams' connection to Power Forward Communities, is through Rewiring America, one of the five organizations that leads the program. That seems pretty weak. No idea what the other group is but…

That is McCarthyism[1] in a nutshell. You find someone or something you don't like then work backwards.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by 9283409232 »

londons_explore wrote: post #35
crypto_is_king wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Both sides of the political divide attempt to funnel taxpayers money into their own interests, which are often thinly veiled ways to get taxpayer money into their own pockets. This is nothing new. Whenever there is a change of admin, the new admin attempts to claw back or redirect money the old admin directed to their own pockets. This is also nothing new. What's new this year is people are talking about it.

What evidence do you have of Biden clawing taxpayer money back from Trump's friends?

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by 9283409232 »

londons_explore wrote: post #48
llamaimperative wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If both sides do it, then they should be able to publish better evidence than Stacey Abrams’ “ties” to Power Forward Communities. The fact that all the DOGE and DOGE-adjacent claims of fraud have been so shamefully weak has actually reduced my confidence that the alleged behavior is actually widespread at all.

My guess is because it isn't textbook fraud. Everything is being done legally and by the book. But the money is still ending up in the pockets of friends by making sure it's friends NGO's that know and meet the exact requirements. Afterwards, any investigation will find that a fair dispersement process was done, and this NGO just happened to hit every requirement perfectly whilst all others didn't meet some requireme…

You have no evidence but have already made your mind up and are parallel constructing.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by alienthrowaway »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #12
Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

> In theory, congress can remove a president

In practice, the president is threatening to remove any Republican member of congress who crosses him by supporting a primary challenger.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by kristjansson »

tremon wrote: post #33
crypto_is_king wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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No he didn't. If he had, you would have posted a credible link.

I hate that I know this, but he probably half remembered this conservative brainworm[1], the reality of which is “recently founded weirdo groups claiming nonprofit status are sketchy, get audited more, and the right has more of them”

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by rufus_foreman »

alienthrowaway wrote: post #56
kayodelycaon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

> In theory, congress can remove a president In practice, the president is threatening to remove any Republican member of congress who crosses him by supporting a primary challenger.

>> the president is threatening to remove any Republican member of congress who crosses him by supporting a primary challenger

Democracy is scary stuff to some people.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by lazyeye »

Non-profits and ngos have such enormous potential for fraud and abuse. You get your political friends to setup an ngo, give it a nice name like "Climate Progress Coalition" or "Equity Action Network" etc. Hand it a billion dollars of hard-earned taxpayer money and it can then do (without oversight) what would be illegal for the govt to do with oversight. The potential for abuse is limitless...million-dollar salaries, campaign for the govt and so on...
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