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Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by dghlsakjg »

gamblor956 wrote: post #6
wenwolf wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

The judge can request that the lawyers involved lose their admission to practice in federal court for serious ethical violations like the ones here. However, this very rarely happens except in the most egregious cases where the lawyer is usually also disbarred for their conduct (i.e., Guiliani) so it's not a meaningful disciplinary measure.

Is it just custom not to exercise it?

Why do these judges allow people to show up to court and make exceptionally stupid arguments?

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by kayodelycaon »

Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :)

I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by 9283409232 »

Some information from the linked document about the non-profits that are being targeted.

> 2. Conflicts of Interest and Political Favoritism

> A $2 billion grant was awarded to Power Forward Communities, a new nonprofit with ties to Stacey Abrams, despite reporting only $100 in total revenue in 2023

> Young, Gifted & Green was awarded $20 million, even though its CEO applied for funding while serving on the White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council.

The balls for this administration to attempt to call out other people on conflicts of interest and political favoritism is crazy.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by Alupis »

kayodelycaon wrote: post #12
Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

Just because you are unhappy with how things are being governed doesn't mean democracy is failing, etc. We just had an election, and the current administration won. Midterms are just around the corner. This is exactly how things are supposed to work.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by pjc50 »

Terr_ wrote: post #9
Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

> to try and revert something from under the previous administration More-importantly, it's nowhere close to "normal" try-to-reverts, where one President tries to replace an equally "soft" policy put in place by another President. Here the newly-installed crooks are trying to deny a hard "money shall be spent on X" law passed by Congress , which is an unconstitutional attempt to seize the "power of the purse". Same l…

> as if Trump declared people on his Friends List were exempt from taxes

I'll pencil that in for April. After all, the president can direct who is and is not prosecuted..

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by jagged-chisel »

Terr_ wrote: post #9
Huntsecker wrote: post #7

daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

> to try and revert something from under the previous administration More-importantly, it's nowhere close to "normal" try-to-reverts, where one President tries to replace an equally "soft" policy put in place by another President. Here the newly-installed crooks are trying to deny a hard "money shall be spent on X" law passed by Congress , which is an unconstitutional attempt to seize the "power of the purse". Same l…

> … as if …

This hasn’t happened already?

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by MostlyStable »

Alupis wrote: post #14
kayodelycaon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

Just because you are unhappy with how things are being governed doesn't mean democracy is failing, etc. We just had an election, and the current administration won. Midterms are just around the corner. This is exactly how things are supposed to work.

Congress voluntarily giving up its powers to the executive branch [0] (unfortunately not new, but worsening), isn't exactly Democracy failing, but it's certainly a breakdown of the system of checks and balances upon which our Federal government was conceived, and is most definitely not "how things are supposed to work".

[0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/house-republicans-block-con...

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by a4aur5uiu »

Alupis wrote: post #14
kayodelycaon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :) I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

Just because you are unhappy with how things are being governed doesn't mean democracy is failing, etc. We just had an election, and the current administration won. Midterms are just around the corner. This is exactly how things are supposed to work.

He's literally dissolving, dismantling, and undermining the systems that you're claiming are "working". And federal judges are deciding cases along strict party lines, which is a pretty clear demonstration that they're utterly ignoring the actual written words of the law. And Congress has completely given away their intended control of federal spending. So let's cut the shit. You like Trump and you want this to continue. Don't lie to me and tell me you believe one single word of the mental diarrhea that you just wrote.

It's like we're standing on the street watching a building burn down and you're saying "look the sprinklers are on, this is how it's supposed to happen". No one is stupid enough to say what you're saying and actually believe it. So clearly you're just lying.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Post by Alupis »

MostlyStable wrote: post #18
Alupis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you are unhappy with how things are being governed doesn't mean democracy is failing, etc. We just had an election, and the current administration won. Midterms are just around the corner. This is exactly how things are supposed to work.

Congress voluntarily giving up its powers to the executive branch [0] (unfortunately not new, but worsening), isn't exactly Democracy failing, but it's certainly a breakdown of the system of checks and balances upon which our Federal government was conceived, and is most definitely not "how things are supposed to work". [0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/house-republicans-block-con...

Your particular article lays out exactly how Congress is approving (ie. balancing) the Executive branch's actions. Which means yes, working as intended. You just happen to disapprove.

Majority of the other things people are freaking out about were done via Executive Order, and therefore can be undone by Executive Order.

Smart people have been warning about that for nearly two decades. Now that some people happen to not like what's being undone, it's suddenly a crisis.

News at 11...

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