Extreme poverty in India has dropped to negligible levels

Post by ksynwa » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 7:23 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #106

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That's correct but my point is what kind of poverty is the poverty line measuring if it does not take into account how much people are getting to eat. This access to PPP adjusted dollar amount is clearly not a good heuristic for it because somehow extreme poverty has been alleviated while having a hunger index worse than North Korea.

>while having a hunger index worse than North Korea. Relying on North Korean statistics to make your point is... questionable

I don't know how World Hunger Index get their DPRK figures but that is not important. There are about 110 countries with better hunger indices than India. A country that tells its citizens that we are going to be a superpower by 20xx should not be doing that at meeting basic needs.

Post by octopoc » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 6:10 PM UTC

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Interesting! I agree that India’s colonial history is unique in that it wasn’t settled by Europeans like North America. But Judaism isn’t a western religion, it’s a Middle Eastern religion with strong ethnic ties. Hence it hasn’t evolved and branched like all the major religions have. Christianity isn’t western religion either, but modern Protestantism and Roman Catholicism arguably are. Eastern Orthodox is actually…

Then let's just break it down between Jewish descended (Abrahamic) and not China adopted communism which is ultimately a philosophy whose patrimony is European and all that entails. > Eastern Orthodox is actually a great example of the diversity of all major religions— they have national churches (Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox). I mean... Sure and they still have common beliefs descended from Judaism and Christian…

I think we agree but let me just as some nuance to what you’re saying.

The Jews didn’t invent their beliefs out of whole cloth—this is true whether it’s Judaism or communism (Karl Marx, Lenin, and most Russian communists were Jewish though I think you know that already). They borrowed monotheism and a bunch of their religion from local religions at the time. Jewish communists learned a great deal from the French Revolution. They put a Jewish stamp on these beliefs so to speak, then handed off some of those beliefs to other people who, like the Jews before them, discarded what didn’t make sense to them and kept what did. China is barely communist now, by Russian standards, it’s more fascist to be honest.

Another good example is how in modern Protestantism they talk a lot of about “the biblical definition of marriage,” when what they really mean is one man and one woman—more of a northwest European definition. The biblical definition of marriage is one man and one or more wives. But you can’t get a modern Protestant to accept what the Bible says because everyone reads their own beliefs into these religions.

There is no discernible ultimate source to any religion—it’s more like a chain of beliefs, where people take their existing beliefs and project them onto their religion.

Having said that, Hinduism is is a chain of beliefs that has stayed within the same ethnic group for a very long time, which maybe is what you’re saying? And that is indeed something rare and very precious.

Re: Extreme poverty in India has dropped to negligible levels

Re: Extreme poverty in India has dropped to negligible levels