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Post by LinuxBender »

chneu wrote: post #184
LinuxBender wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need for brain programming. Some of them will have seen Cody Detwiler WhistlinDiesel test the CT. [1][2] He's of course overly dramatic and meant to be entertainment but I personally wish he would test every vehicle and should be the standard for durability testing. There are plenty of other Youtubers running into problems with the Cyber..... falling apart when doing things I did with my 80's Chevy without issue.…

whistlindiesel is one of the most annoying car-centered youtube creators. Dude constantly baits people into saying stuff and then he claims to be a victim to drum up support from his conservative followers. His script is so tired and predictable at this point. i'm not saying dont post his links or anything, just giving some perspective for HN folks who might not be familiar with his shtick.

Absolutely. He trolled the general aviation crowd pretty hard. He also does some good once in a while like getting the cops to leave a high-school kid alone. [1] People may not like his style but I would like to see him troll more communities. Too many people take themselves way too serious in my opinion.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7uzYsRbukw [video][18 mins]

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

closewith wrote: post #43
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #13

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>If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed Doesn't employers being forced to paying wages to sick employees for 6 weeks take a toll on small businesses with little cashflow? >There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. No, but sick days are still not work…

> If you look at recent statistics, German workers are at the top of sick days used, twice as much sick days than the EU average, which is an insane difference. So what's going on? Is there a health crisis in Germany causing Germans to be twice as sick as their neighbors? Or are they twice as likely to cheat the system? Or a bit of both? Both are obviously factors, but there is also another category, people who are l…

>All labour is exploited - the degree to which it is is limited by law in each country.

That's very reductionist to say that ALL labor is exploited, least of all privileged well paid white collar jobs in rich western countries, and undermines the actual labor exploitation going on out there.

Sure, you might consider yourself exploited with a measly 100k+/year wage because your CEO makes over 200x that, but the majority of the population will disagree and have no sympathy on that being remotely resembling exploitation.

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Post by lfsh »

adamgamble wrote: post #175
lfsh wrote: post #150

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Serious question: are you bothered by Elon's behavior?

I think two things are true, the government needs to cut expenses drastically and also that Elon should spend way more time at Tesla and spacex. I didn’t buy my truck because of Elon, I bought it because I needed a truck and all the other truck manufacturers are completely brain dead when it comes to software. I definitely wish Elon would shut up often, but he’s clearly not a nazi. That’s all nonsense. His work at do…

Thank you for your answer.

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Post by closewith »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #202
closewith wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you look at recent statistics, German workers are at the top of sick days used, twice as much sick days than the EU average, which is an insane difference. So what's going on? Is there a health crisis in Germany causing Germans to be twice as sick as their neighbors? Or are they twice as likely to cheat the system? Or a bit of both? Both are obviously factors, but there is also another category, people who are l…

>All labour is exploited - the degree to which it is is limited by law in each country. That's very reductionist to say that ALL labor is exploited, least of all privileged well paid white collar jobs in rich western countries, and undermines the actual labor exploitation going on out there. Sure, you might consider yourself exploited with a measly 100k+/year wage because your CEO makes over 200x that, but the majori…

> That's very reductionist to say that ALL labor is exploited, least of all privileged well paid white collar jobs in rich western countries, and undermines the actual labor exploitation going on out there.

All labour is exploited, even the most pampered employees. That's why it's important that even those most well-paid and well-treated employees lend their support to others through supporting unions and the global labour movement.

> Sure, you might consider yourself exploited with a measly 100k+/year wage because your CEO makes over 200x that, but the majority of the population will disagree and have no sympathy on that being remotely resembling exploitation.

Divide and conquer has been the oppressors' tactic of choice for millennia. The tried-and-tested counter is class solidarity. Don't fool yourself into thinking you aren't working class just because your wages are higher than others.

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Post by alphabettsy »

LinuxBender wrote: post #201
chneu wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

whistlindiesel is one of the most annoying car-centered youtube creators. Dude constantly baits people into saying stuff and then he claims to be a victim to drum up support from his conservative followers. His script is so tired and predictable at this point. i'm not saying dont post his links or anything, just giving some perspective for HN folks who might not be familiar with his shtick.

Absolutely. He trolled the general aviation crowd pretty hard. He also does some good once in a while like getting the cops to leave a high-school kid alone. [1] People may not like his style but I would like to see him troll more communities. Too many people take themselves way too serious in my opinion. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7uzYsRbukw [video][18 mins]

I do think people take themselves too, seriously, but I don’t think trolling is the solution or generally good.

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Post by LinuxBender »

alphabettsy wrote: post #206
LinuxBender wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. He trolled the general aviation crowd pretty hard. He also does some good once in a while like getting the cops to leave a high-school kid alone. [1] People may not like his style but I would like to see him troll more communities. Too many people take themselves way too serious in my opinion. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7uzYsRbukw [video][18 mins]

I do think people take themselves too, seriously, but I don’t think trolling is the solution or generally good.

I agree in spirit. I just don't know how else to quickly make a group expose itself for how uptight and stodgy it may be. When I was young I was a member of an amazing group that was down to earth, intelligent, well spoken, rational, well connected and they ruined me.

Now I find most groups to be fake on the outside and once one joins the true faces start to show. So I guess I like to see those groups exposed for who they are to prevent people from mistakenly joining them unless of course that is their thing.

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Post by marto1 »

anon22981 wrote: post #154
nrjames wrote: post #122

Musk and Tesla could have dominated the US EV market for years to come had he stuck with the core clean energy message and not surrounded himself with sycophants and publicly acted like a racist jerk. It’s like a modern retelling of The Emperor’s New Clothes.

Not the US but most EV markets, apart from maybe eventually asian markets. Tesla and Musk had a crazy amount of goodwill and pretty much everyone I know was ”oh look, it’s a Tesla!” early on. Now every is more like ”oh look, it’s a Tesla..”

And now all these tesla folks will buy the next cool thing and continue the cycle.. We got them again!

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Post by DamnInteresting »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

> I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it

I have a friend who owns a Cybertruck, and he let me give it a try. There are many, many, many legitimate and damning criticisms of Cybertruck, Tesla, and Musk, but the Cybertruck driving experience (on pavement) is not one of them. It is crazy fast, and surprisingly nimble with its 4-wheel drive-by-wire steering. It is dangerous and stupid, but it isn't boring.

Speaking as a lifelong driving enthusiast, I would never buy one, but I'm glad I got to try one.

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Post by immibis »

FrojoS wrote: post #9
immibis wrote: post #5

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Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

Wrong. The first Tesla, the Roadster, was an existing design by Lotus [1]. All Tesla designs since, including the Cybertruck, have been led by Franz von Holzhausen. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(first_generati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen

This neither confirms nor denies that the Cybertruck was the first one Musk designed.
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