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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by rob74 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #13
junon wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

>If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed Doesn't employers being forced to paying wages to sick employees for 6 weeks take a toll on small businesses with little cashflow? >There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. No, but sick days are still not work…

> I'm always curious about this. How often can you get day off for stress?

As often as your doctor will allow/approve it?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by iammjm »

ta1243 wrote: post #17
netsharc wrote: post #4

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Only 33% of the region.

*at least 33% of the region. there is no point in sugar-coating this. if you live there and feel misrepresented, then its up to you to stand up and speak up and try to turn the tide

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

rob74 wrote: post #21
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed Doesn't employers being forced to paying wages to sick employees for 6 weeks take a toll on small businesses with little cashflow? >There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. No, but sick days are still not work…

> I'm always curious about this. How often can you get day off for stress? As often as your doctor will allow/approve it?

Of course, but what doctors can and can't do is restricted by the regulations of the national health insurance/organization.

For example in Austria a doctor can't easily write you sick for stress over and over without getting in hot water with the national health insurance board.

After too many sick days, you get summoned for "an audit" to the national insurance doctor for an examination to check why are you sick so often, and unless you show some test results that can prove that you can't work, then that doctor will declare you fit for work and then you are forced to return to work.

There was a case in the news where one worker had to sue the national health insource to be classified as permanently unfit for work(disability) due to long covid since the national insure was not accepting/recognizing her long covid and calling her fit for work.

It's pretty brutal sometimes, the system has grifters on both sides leading to misery.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by seszett »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #13
junon wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

>If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed Doesn't employers being forced to paying wages to sick employees for 6 weeks take a toll on small businesses with little cashflow? >There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. No, but sick days are still not work…

> How do employers or health insurers differentiate between stress as a health condition and being lazy and not wanting to work?

They don't, it's the job of the doctor that examines the patient and writes the note.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by iszomer »

mschild wrote: post #12
junon wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

> more than a month or something 6 weeks. > But your employer can still check that you're actually sick. Within limits, yes. Tesla in Germany went way beyond that though. Private detectives and managers showing up at employees houses to check they're actually sick. They're also holding back the salaries of sick employees and are pressuring sick employees to give up their medical privilege and share personal health in…

I imagine Tesla has to follow the rules and regulations in accordance with German law, the same as Tesla's division in China.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by rob74 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #23
rob74 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm always curious about this. How often can you get day off for stress? As often as your doctor will allow/approve it?

Of course, but what doctors can and can't do is restricted by the regulations of the national health insurance/organization. For example in Austria a doctor can't easily write you sick for stress over and over without getting in hot water with the national health insurance board. After too many sick days, you get summoned for "an audit" to the national insurance doctor for an examination to check why are you sick so…

Sure, and that influences what the doctor will allow/approve :)

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by jwx48 »

ta1243 wrote: post #16
immibis wrote: post #5

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Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

Simpsons already did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo

I think of this every single time I see or read about a cybertruck.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by guappa »

baxtr wrote: post #7
oblio wrote: post #2

Tesla post 2020 is an interesting experiment in automaking. I'm fairly convinced that if the US wouldn't protect it's internal markets so much, both Apple and Tesla would probably be gone in maximum 10 years. Maybe not gone as much as greatly diminished.

Re Apple: How is the US protecting its market against other smartphone manufacturers?

Check how many people have iphones in europe compared to usa
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