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OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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“Safety” was in air quotes for a reason. The Claude peoples’ idea of “AI safety” risks are straight out of the terminator movies.

Wouldn’t you rather have a player concerned with worst case scenarios?

Defending against movie plot threats has been found not a good use of resources already 20 years ago in the war on terrorism.

https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2005/09/terrorists_...

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Also textbook Fascism. Trump should have a Most Favored Corporate status, each corporation in a vertical can compete for favor and the one that does gets to be "teacher's pet" when it comes to exemptions, contracts, trade deals, priority in resource right access, etc.

Can you explain why this is associated with fascism specifically, and not any other form of government which has high levels of oligarchical corruption (like North Korea, Soviet Russia, etc). I am not saying you’re wrong, but please educate me why is this form of corruption/cronyism is unique to fascism?

I think it is associated with fascism, just from the other party.

This is pretty common fascist practice that is used all over Europe and in any left-leaning countries, when with regulations governments make doing business on large scale impossible, and then give largest players exemptions, subsidies and so on. Governments gain enormous leverage to ensure corporate loyalty, silence dissenters and combat opposition, while the biggest players secure their place at the top and gain protection from competitors.

So the plan was push regulations and then dominate over the competitors with exemptions from those regulations. But fascists loose the election, regulations threaten to start working in a non-discriminatory manner, and this will simply hinder business.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Competition can only work when there is variation between the entities competing. In the US right now you can have a death match between every AI lab, then give all the resources to the one which wins and you'd still have largely the same results as if you didn't. The reason why Deepseek - it started life as a HFT firm - hit as hard as it did is because it was a cross disciplinary team that had very non-standard skil…

> I've had to try and head hunt network and FPGA engineers away from HFT firms and it was basically impossible. They already make big tech (or higher) salaries without the big tech bullshit - which none of them would ever pass. Can confirm. There are downsides, and it can get incredibly stressed at times, but there are all sorts of big tech imposed hoops you don't have to jump through.

which hoops ?

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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post #357

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Competition can only work when there is variation between the entities competing. In the US right now you can have a death match between every AI lab, then give all the resources to the one which wins and you'd still have largely the same results as if you didn't. The reason why Deepseek - it started life as a HFT firm - hit as hard as it did is because it was a cross disciplinary team that had very non-standard skil…

> I've had to try and head hunt network and FPGA engineers away from HFT firms and it was basically impossible. They already make big tech (or higher) salaries without the big tech bullshit - which none of them would ever pass. Can confirm. There are downsides, and it can get incredibly stressed at times, but there are all sorts of big tech imposed hoops you don't have to jump through.

> all sorts of big tech imposed hoops you don't have to jump through

Could you kindly share some examples for those of us without big tech experience? I assume you're talking about working practises more than just annoying hiring practises like leetcode?

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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DeepSeek really shook them to their core. Now they go for regulatory capture. Such a huge disappointment. Open source AI will win: https://medium.com/thoughts-on-machine-learning/the-laymans-...

It's not just them. Everyone is scrambling. US tech, and western tech in general, is very culturally - and by this I mean in the type of coding people have done - homogeneous. The deep seek papers published over the last two weeks are the biggest thing to happen in IA since GPT3 came out. But unless you understand distributed file systems, networking, low level linear algebra, and half a dozen other fields at least t…

> At this point I'm honestly wondering if they aren't just using the interview process to generate high quality validation data for free.

Not sure if that is accurate, but one of the reasons why DeepSeek R1 performs so well in certain areas is thought to be access to China's Gaokao (university entrance exam) data.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Can you explain why this is associated with fascism specifically, and not any other form of government which has high levels of oligarchical corruption (like North Korea, Soviet Russia, etc). I am not saying you’re wrong, but please educate me why is this form of corruption/cronyism is unique to fascism?

I think it is associated with fascism, just from the other party. This is pretty common fascist practice that is used all over Europe and in any left-leaning countries, when with regulations governments make doing business on large scale impossible, and then give largest players exemptions, subsidies and so on. Governments gain enormous leverage to ensure corporate loyalty, silence dissenters and combat opposition, w…

>and then give largest players exemptions, subsidies and so on.

You mean like Germany has done?

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What AI companies are doing (downloading pirated music and training models) is completely unfair. It takes lot of money (everything related to music is expensive), talent and work to record a good song and what AI companies do is just grab millions of songs for free and call it "fair use". If their developers are so smart and talented why don't they simply compose and record the music by themselves? > not only a work…

> What AI companies are doing (downloading pirated music and training models) is completely unfair. We work in an industry built on leveraging unfairness. Expecting otherwise on this forum is very odd.

>We work in an industry built on leveraging unfairness. Expecting otherwise on this forum is very odd.

Yet this forum is very quick to criticize other people and other industries for unfairness.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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It's not just them. Everyone is scrambling. US tech, and western tech in general, is very culturally - and by this I mean in the type of coding people have done - homogeneous. The deep seek papers published over the last two weeks are the biggest thing to happen in IA since GPT3 came out. But unless you understand distributed file systems, networking, low level linear algebra, and half a dozen other fields at least t…

> At this point I'm honestly wondering if they aren't just using the interview process to generate high quality validation data for free. Not sure if that is accurate, but one of the reasons why DeepSeek R1 performs so well in certain areas is thought to be access to China's Gaokao (university entrance exam) data.

Thats stupid. same as indias IIT advanced for ex. You learn all that stuff in year 1 physics and math in uni.

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Also textbook Fascism. Trump should have a Most Favored Corporate status, each corporation in a vertical can compete for favor and the one that does gets to be "teacher's pet" when it comes to exemptions, contracts, trade deals, priority in resource right access, etc.

What do you think Melon Tusk is doing, apart from letting out his inner (and outer) (and literal) child on the world stage?

Lots of Ketamine.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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It’s a poor definition. The same “subsidization and directive influence” applies to all of Krugman’s Nobel-wining domestic champion, emerging market development leaders, in virtually all ‘successful’ economies. It also applies in the context of badly run, failed and failing economies. Safe to say this factor is only somewhat correlated. Broad assertions are going to be factually wrong.

All snakes have scales, so there is a 100% correlation between being a snake and having scales. That does not imply that fish are snakes. Nor does the presence of scaled fish invalidate the observation that having scales is a defining attribute of snakes (it's just not a sufficient attribute to define snakes).

> there is a 100% correlation between being a snake and having scales.

That's a strange definition of "correlation" that you're using.

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