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Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
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Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#162This isn’t just about individual laziness—it’s a systemic arms race towards intellectual decay.[0] With programming, the same basic tension exists as with the more effective smarter AI-enhanced approaches to conceptual learning: effectiveness is a function of effort, and the whole reason for the "AI epidemic" is that people are avoiding effort like the plague. So the problem seems to boil down to, how can we convince…
> With programming, the same basic tension exists as with the more effective smarter AI-enhanced approaches to conceptual learning: effectiveness is a function of effort, and the whole reason for the "AI epidemic" is that people are avoiding effort like the plague. That's not true. Yes, you can get more effective at something with more effort, but you can get even more effective at it if you find a way to get results…
Indeed, taking the work of others, stripping the license and putting it on a photocopier is the most efficient way of "work". This is progress, not a problem.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#163Moralist bias:
Then compilers are a clutch and we all should be programming in assembly, no matter the project size.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#164Sheesh, I didn't expect my post to go viral. Little explanation:
I downloaded and run Cursor for the first time when this "error" happened. Turned out I was supposed to use agent instead of inline Cmd+K command because inline has some limitations while agent not so much.
Nevertheless, I was surprised that AI could actually say something like that so just in case I screenshotted it - some might think it's fake, but it's actually real and makes me think if in future AI will start giving attitudes to their users. Oh, welp. For sure I didn't expect it to blow up like this since it was all new to me so I thought it maybe was an easter egg or just a silly error. Turned out it wasn't seen before so there we are!
Cheers
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#165This isn’t just about individual laziness—it’s a systemic arms race towards intellectual decay.[0] With programming, the same basic tension exists as with the more effective smarter AI-enhanced approaches to conceptual learning: effectiveness is a function of effort, and the whole reason for the "AI epidemic" is that people are avoiding effort like the plague. So the problem seems to boil down to, how can we convince…
> whole reason for the "AI epidemic" is that people are avoiding effort like the plague
sounds like you're against corporate hierarchy too? or would you agree that having underlings do stuff for you at a reasonable price helps you achieve more?
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#166Perhaps Cursor has learned the concept of shakedowns. It will display stolen code only if you upgrade the subscription or sign a minerals deal.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#167This isn’t just about individual laziness—it’s a systemic arms race towards intellectual decay.[0] With programming, the same basic tension exists as with the more effective smarter AI-enhanced approaches to conceptual learning: effectiveness is a function of effort, and the whole reason for the "AI epidemic" is that people are avoiding effort like the plague. So the problem seems to boil down to, how can we convince…
> effectiveness is a function of effort
In other words, the Industrial Revolution was a mistake?
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#168It's going to be interesting to see the AI generation arriving in the workplace, ie kids who grew up with ChatGPT, and have never learned to find something in a source document themselves. Not even just about coding, about any other knowledge.
I think we already saw this manifestation a few decades ago, with kids who can't program without an IDE. IDE's are fantastic tools - don't get me wrong - but if you can't navigate a file system, work to understand the harness involved in your build system, or discern the nature of your artefacts and how they are loaded and interact in your target system, you're not doing yourself any favours by having the IDE do all…
I worked early in my career with a developer who printed out every part of the codebase to review and learn it. He viewed text search tools, file delineations, and folder structures as crutches best avoided.
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's ironic to see people say this type of things and not think about old software engineer practices that are now obsolete because overtime we have created more and more tools to simplify the craft. This is yet another step in that evolution. We are no longer using punch cards or writing assembly code, and we might not write actual code in the future anymore and just instruct ais to achieve goals. This is progress
Elsewhere in this discussion thread[0], 'ChrisMarshallNY compares this to feelings of insecurity : > It’s really about basic human personal insecurity, and we all have that, to some degree. Getting around it, is a big part of growing up (...) I believe he's right. It makes me think back to my teenage years, when I first learned to program because I wanted to make games. Within the amateur gamedev community, we had th…
Insecurity is not just a part of growing up, it's a part of growing old as well, a feeling that our skills and knowledge will become increasingly useless as our technologies advance.
Humans are tool users. It is very difficult to pick a point in time and say, "it was here that we crossed the Rubicon". Was it the advent of spoken word? Written word? Fire? The wheel? The horse? The axe? Or in more modern times, the automobile, calculator, or dare I say the computer and the internet?
"With the arrival of electric technology, man has extended, or set outside himself, a live model of the central nervous system itself. To the degree that this is so, it is a development that suggests a desperate suicidal autoamputation, as if the central nervous system could no longer depend on the physical organs to be protective buffers against the slings and arrows of outrageous mechanism."
― Marshall McLuhan, Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man
Are we at battle with LLMs or with humanity itself?
Re: Cursor told me I should learn coding instead of asking it to generate it
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m 10 years in software and was never bothered to remember how to implement it the efficient way and I know many programmers who don’t know even the inefficient way but kick ass. I once got that question in an interview for a small startup and told the interviewer: with all due respect what does that have to do with the job I’m going to do and we moved on to the next question (still passed).
i’m around 10 years as well and i can’t even remember how the fibonacci sequence progress off hand. I’d have to wikipedia it to even get started.
There's nothing wrong with that. But once the interviewer tells you that the next number is the sum of the previous two, starting with 0 and 1, any programmer with a pulse should be good to go.