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Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by usrusr »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #16

> I think that’s probably because the 1990s styling is part of what makes PuTTY what it is – “reassuringly old-fashioned” This is definitely something that attracts me to PuTTY. There _is_ something reassuring about applications that look the way PuTTY does - maybe the aged look projects stability due to lack of change, maybe it's just the additional cohesion from using OS primitives, I'm not sure. What I am sure of…

Software using the win32 graphics primitives is just so incredibly fast. If it looks like those, there is of course still the possibility that it wastes time elsewhere (or in an exact simulation of those looks), but it might also just be the real thing, as instantaneous as the old "just load a file into the text control, \n without preceding \r be damned!" notepad. (I miss having that notepad, it was so properly being just what it was, without any pretentions of being something different)

I think I saw a notepad reimplementation in assembly once: half a screen (or what felt like half a screen) of glue code to plug the file access into the text control, might have even had the ctrl+h menu and dialog. Just like the glue code python prides itself of, only that it was straight assembly, zero dependencies except for the DLLs for file access and the bare bones standard control set.

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by potato3732842 »

robinhouston wrote: post #67
petesergeant wrote: post #65

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> No country complains about itself more while being so absurdly well-organized. I’ve noticed Australians seem to have a similar issue: they decry the Nanny State at home, but all the ones I’ve met abroad complain about the current location being insufficiently nannified. Often both complaints in the same conversation. Finally: Italians. I thought a trip from Milan to Rome was going to be like a trip through Somalia…

That’s not my experience of Australians at all! The Australians I’ve met (through working for an Australian company) all seem to love their nanny state, and genuinely don’t understand how anyone could see anything undesirable in it.

Because you're meeting the ones so content they don't leave.

All the things people are saying here about Australians are the same complaints Americans in the west have about Californians.

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by potato3732842 »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #69
arp242 wrote: post #36

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The "Elderly People" road signs win for me: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2GYPJR6/an-elderly-people-roadside... The first time I saw one of these I stopped to take a picture. It just seems the most ridiculous thing to warn people about, as if somehow "elderly people" can't cross the road.

> It just seems the most ridiculous thing to warn people about, as if somehow "elderly people" can't cross the road I don't understand this mindset. Do people not walk where you live, or do you not have elderly care homes? I've been to _multiple_ countries and nearly all of them with some uniform signage standard warn motorists about elderly and children crossing.

I think the point is that elderly people are fairly sentient so you don't have to worry about them doing dumb things like darting out in front of a semi truck like you do with kids so there's no reason to warn drivers about a high density of them since they behave like normal pedestrians if perhaps a bit slower.

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by smackeyacky »

petesergeant wrote: post #70
robinhouston wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not my experience of Australians at all! The Australians I’ve met (through working for an Australian company) all seem to love their nanny state, and genuinely don’t understand how anyone could see anything undesirable in it.

Somehow the same country that venerates Ned Kelly

You only have to watch one episode of Aussie Dash Cams to see how we Australians feel about authority.

Freedom for me, but cheering when someone else gets caught by the police when they are breaking the law. It’s an odd dichotomy. I don’t hate it but we do seem to lack self awareness with a slightly English style.

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by genewitch »

gerdesj wrote: post #38
t0mas88 wrote: post #24

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Perfectly documented warning stickers for everything is such a British thing. Together with fused plugs and on/off switches for every socket. As a foreigner who lived in London for a few years I believe the UK leads the world in self-deprecation. No country complains about itself more while being so absurdly well-organized.

"while being so absurdly well-organized." I note a z in organized ... I do get where you are coming from: My mum used to joke about a fictional sign that said "Please do not throw stones at this sign". Some of our signage is absolutely laughable. We do have road signs that proclaim: "New signage" or "New road system" etc. The locals know what has changed already and non locals are encountering it for the first time a…

I'm fairly certain I can find a sign that says, not verbatim, "no shooting at signs" riddled with bullet holes. There was one near the experimental USDA forest, but I bet I could crowd source another one.

Most signs do not have bullet holes in them. Like, 98/100 signs are holes-frei

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by [deleted] »

msla wrote: post #22
gerdesj wrote: post #19

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Simon Tathum is British and I have never knowingly seen a lightning bolt coloured cyan hereabouts. Our "Danger of death" signs are black on yellow (1) To be fair an image search for lightning does look decidedly cyan on royal, with purple, red and more options. (1) https://www.hse.gov.uk/electricity/nearelectric.htm#signs

It's like the symbol for rain being a "raindrop" that's shaped like a teardrop: Bulbous bottom, with a top that tapers to a point, which is manifestly not the shape rain takes in the air. https://gpm.nasa.gov/education/articles/shape-of-a-raindrop Iconography is a language, and terms in a language aren't usually exact representations of what they stand for.

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Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by zimpenfish »

gerdesj wrote: post #38
t0mas88 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perfectly documented warning stickers for everything is such a British thing. Together with fused plugs and on/off switches for every socket. As a foreigner who lived in London for a few years I believe the UK leads the world in self-deprecation. No country complains about itself more while being so absurdly well-organized.

"while being so absurdly well-organized." I note a z in organized ... I do get where you are coming from: My mum used to joke about a fictional sign that said "Please do not throw stones at this sign". Some of our signage is absolutely laughable. We do have road signs that proclaim: "New signage" or "New road system" etc. The locals know what has changed already and non locals are encountering it for the first time a…

> non locals are encountering it for the first time anyway

Not entirely accurate? Non-locals may visit the area often enough that they're familiar with the area but will not necessarily be familiar with local changes.

(eg parents visiting from another part of the country every few months)

Re: Iconography of the PuTTY tools

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Post by gtr »

potato3732842 wrote: post #73
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It just seems the most ridiculous thing to warn people about, as if somehow "elderly people" can't cross the road I don't understand this mindset. Do people not walk where you live, or do you not have elderly care homes? I've been to _multiple_ countries and nearly all of them with some uniform signage standard warn motorists about elderly and children crossing.

I think the point is that elderly people are fairly sentient so you don't have to worry about them doing dumb things like darting out in front of a semi truck like you do with kids so there's no reason to warn drivers about a high density of them since they behave like normal pedestrians if perhaps a bit slower.

I think it's more to warn a motorist to be mindful of slow moving people. And older people do occasionally fall over too.
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