Wonder how Google is going to balance both innovation and revenue.
Gemini Robotics
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Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model. The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world. It doesn't get any better than this right now. What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microco…
It doesn't get any better than this right now. And it won't ever get any worse.
You sure about that? Google Search is backed by a pretty big-serious ML model, and it's gotten a lot worse in just the last few years.
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#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
It definitely adds value to the conversation - we're all human, we're all unsure about the future and our place in it. I'm just scared about a future where humans (say the next generation, kids 1-5 years of age right now) lack in-depth knowledge of almost everything and it's mostly AI writing low-level code, so there are no more "human experts." We've already seen this happening where Gen Z mostly interacts with the…
> I'm just scared about a future where humans (say the next generation, kids 1-5 years of age right now) lack in-depth knowledge of almost everything and it's mostly AI writing low-level code, so there are no more "human experts." Isn’t that the ultimate goal?
Why would it be? I can understand wanting us to be free of having to do the work, but having essentially no-one understand the systems they're using is something we haven't encountered once in the modern period. It feels more akin to the post-Roman Britons, who inherited the Empire's hydraulic infrastructure but not the know-how to fix it when things went wrong.
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#364The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.
why do the people on this website have such obviously flawed world models
It's kind of like that on all websites, or worse.
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#365If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.
There are plenty of places [1] where garbage is sorted for free by poor people who scrape a living from recycling it.
Sorting garbage is a terrible job for humans, but it's a terrible one for robots too. Those fancy mechanical actuators etc are not going to stand up well to garbage that's regularly saturated with liquids, oil, grease, vomit, feces, dead animals, etc.
[1] https://loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=96-P13-00022&s...
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#367does anyone know if any of the robot arms being used in these videos, especially the ones that look like just an aluminium extrusion, are off-the-shelf things that can be purchased somewhere? even if its a kit?
I would love to experiment with something like this but everytime I try to figure out what hardware to do it with there's a thousand cheap no-name options and then bam 30k+ for the pro ones.
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody cares about the efficiency of recycling. Existing pro-recycling orgs will want no part of this and do what they can to stop it. This is because if it becomes easy then it won’t matter and all the marketing, non profit orgs and everything goes away, making it a non problem. While I am sure you will find people who will like these ideas and want them, they will have zero control. At this point recycling is a mar…
Well, it's actually good to have that kind of marketing. First, because there are people that don't care anyway and keep mixing things. So, robots can be useful just the same. And for the ones that actually follow the marketing, it's a good incentive to try to reduce the usage of one use plastics and packages in general. Recycling is the last of the 3 Rs for a reason.
Honestly I am so frustrated with the approach of "lets take a population of millions of people and ask them all to sort perfectly". 'Tis a silly thing. Some people won't care, some people will care but mistakes will happen, some people will care about money more and so will deliberately dump things in the wrong bucket.
Get everyone to dump their crap into one pile and actually invest in industrial processes to sort the crap out.
Huge con: this is a complex problem with possibly poisonous/explosive ramifications if it goes wrong.
Huge Pro: If we can solve this issue, that is a society changing capability, forevermore.
Or until armageddon/robot overlords/singularity/zombie plague at least.
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#369When they're competent enough to cook meals, that's the point of no return for the job market.
These models are nowhere near that for now, but I'll be watching to see if the big investments into synthetic data generation over the next few years get them closer.
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#370When they're competent enough to cook meals, that's the point of no return for the job market. These models are nowhere near that for now, but I'll be watching to see if the big investments into synthetic data generation over the next few years get them closer.
I guess it depends.
They can be competent enough to cook meals in a controlled environment: (environment built for machines and specific dishes), without ever being able to replicate the same in a human restaurant.
There are a few companies that do robotic cooking, and it has its challenges due to the above reason. I am not aware of the cost problem though.
How cool would it be if this replaced someone at Subway though