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Post by moralestapia »

cvhc wrote: post #197
moralestapia wrote: post #78

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What? Any stock market source would tell you GOOG was ~140 USD at the start of 2022. Today it is ~170 USD. A 20% increase over three years, about the same rate as inflation and S&P. This is extremely trivial to verify. Was this written by a GPT bot?

This really depends on which day of 2022 you start the calculation. But to be fair, you can claim the same for AAPL (+25%)/MSFT (+22%)/AMZN (+22%)/... It's just the up and down of the entire market (and these big techs dominate S&P 500). I don't think that actually indicates anything.

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Post by synergy20 »

falcor84 wrote: post #119
jeffbee wrote: post #96

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So far OpenAI has done nothing other than spend billions of Microsoft's dollars.

As anecdata, I would offer that the conversations I've had with ChatGPT over these couple of years have been incredible for me. Even just for relieving loneliness, it's been worth the monthly subscription a few times over. Maybe the company and their business model are doomed to fail, but I'm grateful for what they enabled so far.

that's true, there are just many options these days and I think OpenAI was not keeping its team together and innovating fast enough. the first-move advantage is disappearing quickly.

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Post by sgillen »

acyou wrote: post #177

One of my previous coworkers put it best: the cool looking proof of concept or prototype is 10% of the effort, and getting something that works in the real world and that people actually want is the other 100%. If we see a real world application that a business actually uses, or that people want to use, that's great. But why announce the prototype with the lab demos? It's premature. Better to wait until you have a go…

> why announce the prototype with the lab demos?

Lol, you need to drive up hype and convince investors you are not falling behind. Not even being cynical here, I think it's a good idea from a business perspective.

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Post by sgillen »

sgerenser wrote: post #176

So has the labels like "Autonomous 1x" actually been a thing that Google has used before, or is it actually meant to be an "inside joke" jab at Tesla's previous videos that had small labels indicating the video was sped up and/or being human controlled?

Videos like these are so often sped up or Teleop, I don't think it's really a jab at anyone specifically, just making it clear this video is showing an Autonomous agent without any speedup.

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Post by verall »

tim333 wrote: post #181
verall wrote: post #163

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This is interesting because I think the opposite. What is amazing about Google seems to be their incredible ability to squander their lead in absolutely every area. Maps used to be the absolute best and now I frequently get baffling driving directions in a US major metro area. No improvements within the last 10 years. New pixel phones are worse than latest Samsung. Some huge lead in AI absolutely totaled, their inves…

Maps are still pretty good. I use street view and the reviews and opening hours a lot. Which competitor can I use for that? I think the driving directions may have got messed up by merging with Waze.

Yes, the reviews are still very good, but I think this is more due to users (as a 6-point local guide myself) and less due to google.

I am seeing bot-generated reviews more and more often, and when I look at what happened to search, I don't have a lot of faith in google to do a better job with maps. But I sure hope they do, because I'm with you - I really do rely on maps reviews.

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Post by pphysch »

filoleg wrote: post #216
zoogeny wrote: post #126

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Yes, that is fair and probably the accurate assessment. A bit like Tim Cook. He may not be innovative but Apple sure has been profitable. I guess it is easy to view it from my own perspective, one tinged with a hope for invention and innovation. But the market probably loves the financial stability Pichai has brought to the table and doesn't care about the flaws I see. And I 'm not sure why I have rose tinted glasses…

Imo this is just Tim Cook’s public image. By all accounts, comparing Sundar to him is just not fair. Just off the top of my head, under Tim Cook the company managed to: * Propel smartwatches as a brand new product category into the mainstream and be the leader in that category. * Propel AirPods as a brand new product category into the mainstream (and be the leader in that category as well). * Smoothly transition to A…

Why doesn't this comment mention Vision Pro or Apple Car?

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Post by mvdtnz »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #37

Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…

What? Have you ever used Gemini? It's awful. Like, unusable.

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Post by wslh »

spankalee wrote: post #50
Workaccount2 wrote: post #37

Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…

On one hand, I agree with you, on the other, as a former Googler I think that "just needs better coaching" is a huge barrier in Google's current corporate culture and environment. Google as a whole has a long history of not being able to successfully build great products out of great tech. That seems wrong from looking at search, Gmail, Maps*, Docs*, etc., but I think these are cases where a single great insight or i…

> *Maps, Docs, and YouTube were acquired with their key advantages in place.

I don’t think the same logic applies to Google Docs as it does to YouTube. The original companies behind Docs, Sheets, and Slides were practically unknown, and Google deserves credit for their evolution, features, and clear vision. Developing an office suite might be “easier” from a vision standpoint since the category already exists, whereas marketing something like Gemini Robotics is an entirely different challenge. Just my two cents.

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Workaccount2 wrote: post #37

Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…

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