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A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

euroderf wrote: post #189
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #30

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Miraculous changes a lot in the later seasons. I'm saying this because while our kids were very much into the first 2 seasons, it was me and my wife who got hooked for the other 3 seasons. The first 2 seasons are also full of fillers if you want, I don't shy away from skipping them when I'm alone, but we did watch it all with our kids. We had a good time with it. Not sure if you watched it all, I'm looking forward th…

> I wish there was a genre tagged as "engaging for adults, fun for kids" Rocky & Bullwinkle was here. Loaded with adult-friendly puns and hommages.

There are a few, it's just not highlighted, and the problem is you can determine it only after watching it. That defeats the purpose unfortunately!

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Post by euroderf »

bombcar wrote: post #85
kewho wrote: post #36

Bluey is excellence, but I’ve always said Bluey is a kids show for parents. It’s representation of how the parents behave around, and communicate with, their kids, and the numerous examples of ideas for how to play with your children make the show invaluable to parents. The fact that kids love it too only reinforces its clever brilliance.

It’s designed by a parent, specifically a dad, and it shows in so many subtle ways. The way each episode tells you the name of the episode, for example. My kids can name the episode they want by name, which I can search. For other shows, you get a toddler’s description that can itself be a puzzle to interpret. They’re also short enough that they don’t have to add filler.

> The way each episode tells you the name of the episode

"This episode of Bingo is called Bingo."

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Post by euroderf »

inversetelecine wrote: post #177
drivebyhooting wrote: post #38

I’ve never let my kids watch cocomelon (or much screen time at all). But we do listen to cocomelon. It has some legitimately well done music IMO. For example “over the river and through the woods”.

Super Simple Songs if you like music only (although they do have video to go with each song).

Yes these are great. The voice in many (all?) is Caitie, whose Youtube channel[1] is really well done. My 5yo really liked Community Helpers.

[1]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL86-PnO8H7d9uS59c0f6-...

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Post by autoexec »

euroderf wrote: post #188
autoexec wrote: post #172

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I'm not sure there's ever been more options for good shows that a parent can watch and genuinely enjoy with their kids. Try Avatar the Last Airbender/Legend of Korra, Hilda, Sarah & Duck, Adventure Time, Miraculous, The Dragon Prince, MLP Friendship is Magic, She-Ra and the Princess of Power, Samurai Jack, Gravity Falls, Ducktales (the new one, but the old one isn't bad either), Cleopatra in Space, Amphibia, Star vs.…

> I'd also recommend getting your hands on the cartoons you enjoyed as a kid. I grew up with WB Loony Tunes (and Tex Avery and Superchicken and Wacky Racers and...), and that style of animation looks positively ancient in comparison to the modern animation style - whatever you call it - rendered as sort-of-3D. For example, Paw Patrol. This actually worries me because I want my kid (currently 5yo) to have the benefit…

Put on some Loony Toons! Don't worry that it's old. Kids that young don't have enough sense of the timeline to know just how ancient any animation style is, but Loony Toons will stand out for sure. 3D garbage-tier animation is everywhere in kids shows because it's fast and cheap. 3D animation is often much less expressive and dynamic though. The more variety in animation you expose a kid too, the sooner they'll be able to notice bad animation when they see it.

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Post by jakeydus »

pertymcpert wrote: post #162
pkdpic wrote: post #132

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Glad you drew this comparison. I have a 4yo who (TLDR) we didn't really push TV on and started reading on his own when he was two. Before he was born I put a lot of thought into what he would watch before he was born assuming it would be a huge necessity to address. I torrented Mr Rodgers and Reading Rainbow and Eureka (amazing old science cartoon if anyone's encountered it) and I even started writing a script that w…

I've seen that zombie behavior too when my kids watch too long. I think there's definitely value in some shows, and some of them are actually very educational. I think there's a lot more variety these days than when I was a kid. As a rule we don't allow Blippy because the man creeps me out, and something about his childish behavior rubs me the wrong way. OTOH the other day my 5yo kid asked me if I knew why the sky wa…

100% agree on Blippy, the vibe is very off for me. Especially once I learned about his history as a shock youtuber[0], I'm glad that he says he's grown past that and regrets making the content he made but his content is tainted (pun intended) forever for me and I'm not interested in exposing my kid(s) to that.

0. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/blippi-...

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Post by jakeydus »

conductr wrote: post #31
Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #15

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Bluey is much more wholesome than Miraculous. Not a judgement thing, my eldest watches Miraculous too and I don't really have a problem with it. It's just not on the same level as Bluey. A huge plus for parents is also that Bluey is WAY more engaging for adults. Far and away my favourite program to watch with my kids. Some episodes really pull at the heart strings.

Going into parenthood I never thought I'd say it about a kids show but Bluey has damn near made me cry and Bandit makes me strive to be a better dad

I feel no shame admitting that Sleepytime makes me cry without fail every time I see it.

I feel like most cartoon parents are either completely hapless morons (Papa Pig in Peppa Pig) or 100% perfect all the time robots (I love you Mr. and Mrs. Tiger but you're paragons, hard to relate to as parents). Bandit and Chili are incredible parents who also make mistakes and have real emotions and reactions to things. They absolutely make me want to be a better parent in a way that is actually achievable.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Post by jakeydus »

2dvisio wrote: post #99
christiangenco wrote: post #12

My wife and I have a daughter in the demographic of these shows, though she's a little young for Bluey. There's a YouTube (and now Netflix) show called Ms. Rachel for a younger audience that I'd put in the same positive category as Bluey. We probably watch one or two hours of Ms. Rachel videos a day with our daughter. We've got several family friends with a household rule of "no screens at all for kids" who would sco…

Our son has profound hearing loss and he wears Cochlear implants, and I remember very fondly the time we were hooked on Ms Rachel. She is great and lots of her videos are a blessing for parents with children with hearing impairment as she uses lots of techniques that our Speech and Language therapist used to teach us.

And signing! I've noticed she signs along with most of what she says. I think it's an inclusivity thing, but it also meant that our daughter could communicate simple ideas long before she could talk.

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Post by mckn1ght »

Lots of folks praising Bluey and poo-pooing Cocomelon, and I am in the same boat.

One similar show to Bluey I didn’t see mentioned is Puffin Rock. Very chill and wholesome. Probably appropriate for a bit before Bluey in terms of what a child will understand.

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Post by imp0cat »

relaxing wrote: post #106
imp0cat wrote: post #54

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You're getting a lot of downvotes, but you're right, Bluey can be quite cruel when playing with her dad.

Examples?

Hospital, Hairdressers, Shaun, Sleepytime... and the list goes on. Seems to me that Bandit is always on the receiving end.

And then there is the Backpackers episode where Bingo takes her turn and punches him repeatedly.

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