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The Future Is Niri

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Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by onli »

tycho-newman wrote: post #39

When I was in my 20s, I was all in on Compiz. Whatever happened to it?

There were some forks and merges already back then that probably did not help. Then Canoncial hired the main dev, with the main project not surviving far beyond his later departure. Official end point for the project seems to have been https://www.phoronix.com/news/MTI2ODU, in 2012 and mentioning Wayland as reason (as if that were anywhere close back then).

But actually, the launchpad repo has recent commits (or do I read https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz/+git/compiz/+... wrong), and so does https://github.com/compiz-reloaded. You can still just use one of those if you want - Void Linux for example has it packaged, and so does Ubuntu.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by film42 »

tycho-newman wrote: post #39

When I was in my 20s, I was all in on Compiz. Whatever happened to it?

It's still around but not in active development. Tiling window managers like i3 are just a window manager, but you can add compiz as your compositor to wobble if you want. I think compton is still the most popular "just good enough" compositor used by i3 users (it's what I use). Sway is both a compositor and a window manager.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by ahub »

Coming from the same background as the author and about checks notes 15 years older (ouch), I loved Niri very much. However I never managed to make x11 windows behave correctly. At the moment the solutions are a bit cumbersome [0] and I didn't manage to have a smooth experience so far...

[0] https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/wiki/Xwayland

Re: The Future Is Niri

#54

Post by anarcat »

Starlevel004 wrote: post #50

I tried using Niri but the per-monitor workspace behaviour is completely unacceptable to me. I don't use a laptop.

can you expand on that? how does it compare to sway, for example? what's unacceptable and acceptable for you?

Re: The Future Is Niri

#55

Post by strobe »

Propelloni wrote: post #26
strobe wrote: post #13

I thought moving from i3/x11 to sway/wayland but from this post is looks like screen sharing still not resolved yet completely on wayland. How much time is worth to wait until UX with wayland will be good enough to not worry about that kind stuff?

I can't say how much time it is worth to you, sorry. What I can say is that screen sharing works fine under Wayland and Gnome for me (AMD hardware all the way), so I'm inclined to say that Wayland is not the showstopper here.

thanks, good to know.

anyway, if one of the majors tiling wm managers struggling to share specific window it looks like it could be more edge cases like that. Probably, I can deal with those things but I fully understand struggle of this article author so just wanna upgrade to it when possibility of struggle will be minimal for me.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#56

Post by dingnuts »

DarkCrusader2 wrote: post #47

Does anyone know the best way to get some tiling behavior in tradition DEs like Cinnamon. Some basic things like notifications, keyboard controls for volume/brightness, sound etc don't work the best in i3wm by default and requires some fiddling on each machine to get it to work properly. I love the out of the box behavior of my Mint installation and don't want to switch completely to something like i3wm. I could get…

Not sure about Cinnamon, which is a pet project by Linux Mint, but Gnome and Kwin offer some options these days:

https://github.com/ellysaurus/KWin-TilingGuide/

https://github.com/paperwm/PaperWM

https://github.com/peterfajdiga/karousel

there might be more

Re: The Future Is Niri

#57

Post by wging »

TylerE wrote: post #45
BirAdam wrote: post #33

Having heard about Niri previously, I really didn't like the sound of it. Seeing the movement with hotkeys shown with each movement... well... that completely changed my perspective. I will have to give it a try.

Funny, I'm the opposite. The idea is intriguing, but I absolutely do not want animated. I have vision issues and animation just makes everything go (more) blurry.

There's apparently a config setting to turn all animations off, though I haven't tried it myself.

The author linked their config file from the article, and it includes this:

    // Animation settings.
    animations {
        // Uncomment to turn off all animations.
        // off
I think it's boilerplate from the default config file, which would imply that the video they showed is not the 'animations off' version, if that's not already clear from the presence of animations.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#58

Post by arghwhat »

freedomben wrote: post #37
arghwhat wrote: post #3

Niri is cool, but was the drag issue reported? :/ sway 1.10 is from october, 1.10.1 is a bugfix from late january. Since they're talking about git bisect, I imagine they might be running master (i.e., bleeding edge) instead of stable releases...

They did mention that they asked for help in IRC. Not the same thing as a bug report of course, but worth mentioning.

Yeah that's fair, but a lot of people are quite... impatient on IRC, ignoring that those able to answer might be busy or in a different timezone altogether. Debugging an issue requires at the very least the effort to reproduce it, and if the person doesn't already bring a trivial reproduction this can at times be a painful and time-consuming project to extract, and that time is not always available right at that instant.

Coming in with a prepared and easy reproduction and a filed issue makes quite a difference in the response you'll get.

(For the record, I don't experience anything matching what they describe on master right now, but the post was more about PaperWM vs. tiling UX so that doesn't matter that much.)

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by vinceguidry »

kisonecat wrote: post #17
bilekas wrote: post #6

> The worst "street-cred" I have is that I've been using tiling window managers for thirty-five percent of my life: five years with Sway and two with i3. As the realization of those numbers (and my age) dawns upon me The author is ~21 and seems worried they're old ? I had a good giggle about that.. And then it dawned upon me how old I actually am.

As a 40-something year old person who used ratpoison more than 21 years ago... Yeah, I feel super old now.

Man I miss those days. I felt so cool sitting in coffee shops with a 10 year old ThinkPad running ratpoison on Gentoo.
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