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The Future Is Niri

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Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by slightwinder »

bsnnkv wrote: post #20
pona-a wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point to any innovative Windows tiling WMs and explain what "workflow advances" it makes? All I found was FancyWM, and it seems basically identical to i3.

I'm on a phone for most of today so I won't be making the kind of lengthy reply you're asking for, but you can check out komorebi and jwno if you're genuinely interested

I don't see any real innovation with those WM. It looks like they are just migrating the features of advanced Linux-WMs to the windows-world, in their own way.

Can you name any specific features you are considering as innovative?

Re: The Future Is Niri

#32

Post by pmarreck »

kemaru wrote: post #23

It wasn't a good fit for me. The strip of windows extending past the border of my screen, sometimes showing half a window, triggered a weird anxiety, it kept drawing my attention. I used it for about two months and then ditched it for a more traditional tiling compositor (hyprland) where windows don't overlap the screen border. Niri is, however, very pretty from a technical standpoint. Modern Rust codebase, good code…

would a widescreen make this better or worse? (I like to work in UWQHD.)

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by BirAdam »

Having heard about Niri previously, I really didn't like the sound of it. Seeing the movement with hotkeys shown with each movement... well... that completely changed my perspective. I will have to give it a try.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by bsnnkv »

slightwinder wrote: post #31
bsnnkv wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on a phone for most of today so I won't be making the kind of lengthy reply you're asking for, but you can check out komorebi and jwno if you're genuinely interested

I don't see any real innovation with those WM. It looks like they are just migrating the features of advanced Linux-WMs to the windows-world, in their own way. Can you name any specific features you are considering as innovative?

The main ones that I'm still waiting to see integrated into mainstream Linux twms are workspace scrolling (of course), dynamic layout rules and dynamic offset rules (important for ultrawide monitor users).

I'd also like to see container limit rules to enforce stacking after meeting a threshold (functions as a hard cap on tiles-per-workspace), and native support for Vimium-style shortcuts for every UI element on the screen (from jwno), but I could probably live without these.

I wouldn't call these particularly innovative features, in fact they are pretty low hanging fruit.

Re: The Future Is Niri

#35

Post by thesuitonym »

qalmakka wrote: post #24

I just can't wrap my head around tiling WMs (and I've been doing Linux since a _long_ time ago). I just don't see how usable they can be when you have a "small" screen to be honest.

That's cool, homie, maybe it's just not for you. Personally, while I understand the appeal, it's just not for me.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by dkersten »

This looks interesting and I’ll probably give it a try.

I’ve been using Sway for the last five years and i3 for a few years previously. They work fairly well for me, I certainly didn’t have any of the problems the OP mentioned.

My all time favourite window manager, though, and one I wish would be revived (perhaps as a wayland WM now. How I wish I had the free time to take this on…) is GOOMWWM which I used for a decade prior to i3 (and Musca before that).

Re: The Future Is Niri

#37

Post by freedomben »

arghwhat wrote: post #3

Niri is cool, but was the drag issue reported? :/ sway 1.10 is from october, 1.10.1 is a bugfix from late january. Since they're talking about git bisect, I imagine they might be running master (i.e., bleeding edge) instead of stable releases...

They did mention that they asked for help in IRC. Not the same thing as a bug report of course, but worth mentioning.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by freedomben »

Propelloni wrote: post #26
strobe wrote: post #13

I thought moving from i3/x11 to sway/wayland but from this post is looks like screen sharing still not resolved yet completely on wayland. How much time is worth to wait until UX with wayland will be good enough to not worry about that kind stuff?

I can't say how much time it is worth to you, sorry. What I can say is that screen sharing works fine under Wayland and Gnome for me (AMD hardware all the way), so I'm inclined to say that Wayland is not the showstopper here.

Same. Screensharing under Wayland/Gnome with AMD hardware all the way has been working great for quite some time

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by broken-kebab »

aarroyoc wrote: post #25
qalmakka wrote: post #24

I just can't wrap my head around tiling WMs (and I've been doing Linux since a _long_ time ago). I just don't see how usable they can be when you have a "small" screen to be honest.

I use Niri at home and PaperWM at work but I use most apps maximized. The thing that I like is that I can move between windows in a WASD like shortcut, more convenient that doing Alt-Tab. However vertical split is also very easy to do in Niri and it's sometimes very convenient.

But keyboard-driven workflow is not a property of tiling WMs. You can re-configure window switching in many WMs to be whatever you like
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