It's so strange that this should have been a solved problem decades ago, but somehow a robust and secure non-commercial solution never gets off the ground. Speaking of which, how is the IPFS project doing these days?
It was solved a decade ago, BitTorrent protocol
Peer-to-peer file transfers in the browser
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#82These are neat but... it's 2025, and there is still no first class standardized ways to move files over the Internet between PC/mobile/edge devices.
I sit behind a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and an incredibly powerful desktop operating system for 99% of the working day. These devices are pretty much the pinnacle of human-computer interaction; arguably the best tools we have for interacting with digital content with speed and efficiency.
But as soon as I want to do something involving my phone, I have to physically reach for it and immediately hamper myself with its limited UI, screen size, and ludicrously locked-down ecosystem limitations.
Smartphones have been around for decades and yet we're still nowhere close to seamless integration with the rest of our devices. The best we've got are clunky half-featured workarounds (Airdroid) or overly-complex techy solutions inaccessible to laypeople (VNC).
As another commenter said, it's all very much intentional. It's a deliberate choice on behalf of greedy phone manufacturers and greedy app developers. And it's really, really frustrating.
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#83It's so strange that this should have been a solved problem decades ago, but somehow a robust and secure non-commercial solution never gets off the ground. Speaking of which, how is the IPFS project doing these days?
XKCD from a decade ago, and we still can't figure it out ;( https://xkcd.com/949/ Recently I had to send file from Whatsapp to Telegram, because apparently it is forbidden to download file from the Whatsapp and it's a "feature". Facepalm.... PS: afaik IPFS doesn't guarantee file storage, a separate paid middleman is required for that.
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#84Ignorant question: isn't WebRTC just... built into the browser? Do you really need a stack of 20 things to tell the browser to connect to another browser with WebRTC? Isn't one HTML page with a few lines of javascript enough?
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#85I love this WebRTC based attempt to send files browser to browser. Too bad I’ve not yet seen it working without hiccups. I’m currently testing keet, which is in beta but promising as well. https://keet.io/
Holepunch is about open source tech for P2P apps without servers.
Re: Peer-to-peer file transfers in the browser
#86These are neat but... it's 2025, and there is still no first class standardized ways to move files over the Internet between PC/mobile/edge devices.
This is my constant frustration with phones. I sit behind a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and an incredibly powerful desktop operating system for 99% of the working day. These devices are pretty much the pinnacle of human-computer interaction; arguably the best tools we have for interacting with digital content with speed and efficiency. But as soon as I want to do something involving my phone, I have to physically reach…
Re: Peer-to-peer file transfers in the browser
#87It's so strange that this should have been a solved problem decades ago, but somehow a robust and secure non-commercial solution never gets off the ground. Speaking of which, how is the IPFS project doing these days?
Re: Peer-to-peer file transfers in the browser
#88It's so strange that this should have been a solved problem decades ago, but somehow a robust and secure non-commercial solution never gets off the ground. Speaking of which, how is the IPFS project doing these days?
Peer to peer sharing doesn't really have much opportunity for commercialization. The closest thing I can think of is bluetooth file sharing, which can still be a painful experience in some circumstances
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#90>filepizza Horrible name dude
i like the name. pizza invokes thoughts of sharing anyway
(Cheese) Pizza is slang for CSAM.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cheese%20piz...