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A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Great article. Insane that this kind of anti-social kid-numbing garbage production line is not only allowed to exist in our society but also very well rewarded. This is another symptom of our deeply sick world, in which financial success is completely decorrelated from having any kind of positive impact on the world.

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Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

#92
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I like Bluey but couldn't get my young one to sit through it for a nebulizer. Cocomelon did the trick and I'm very thankful for them for that. Honestly, I don't think it's as garbage as everyone makes it out to be. It's hard trying to find video-form nursery rhymes that aren't weird out there. They have that done well. I really like Bluey but I feel like it's for a much older crowd.

Young children don't sit still naturally. Your observation tells me that Cocomelon is overly stimulating, and I think that's what makes it garbage.

I want to be clear that I'm not blaming you, you needed a tool to get your child to sit still for an important reason, and I've done the same.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

#93
> (OJ obviously did it and the other memory I had of that period was this wild Tim Meadows SNL opening bit about the trial).

This is from further down the page, but it reminded me: when the not guilty news broke, Norm MacDonald, who hosted SNL's fake news bit at the time, and had been constantly making OJ jokes about how obviously guilty he was, opened with the line, "Murder is legal in the state of California."[0] Perfect.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CR8u-2TKb0

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bluey is next-level. S-tier television. It’s wholesome, calm, and entertaining. Episodes like Camping, Baby Race, Cricket, and Onesies are all emotional sucker-punches to the adults watching. (My pet theory, which my wife first suggested: Camping is essentially the Star Trek TNG episode Darmok.)

The newer Bluey episode "The Sign" made me ugly cry.

I moved across country and left all my friends behind at the age of 9, The Sign was a hard watch. I was those kids. I can still remember my reaction to being told we were moving (I would have been about 8).

Bluey is a certified work of perfection. My kids have stopped watching it now. I'm tempted to watch them all from the start by myself.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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I heard awful things about Cocomelon. My 17-months-old doesn't watch TV much, but when she does it's usually old Soviet cartoons lol.

Not exactly Soviet, but Marsha and the Bear is awesome… and wholesome.

I gave that a test viewing when my child was at that show's age bracket, but I instantly hated it. Over the top slapstick humour, where destroying someone else's things is seen as OK. Not Cocomelon bad, but nothing much to redeem it either.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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When I was a kid my favourite show was Mr Rogers. I get the sense that Bluey is the closest we have to that level of energy in a kids show these days. I don’t have children yet but I look after my niece after school and we watch Bluey now and again. Even Bluey completely absorbs her. I can wave my hands in front of her face and she doesn’t notice. I’d like to think that that wasn’t the case with me and Mr Rogers but…

This morning my daughter walked into the living room and started telling me about something that happened to her. She stopped talking mid-sentence when her eye fell on the television that I had forgotten to turn off.

Only after calling her name three times and considerably raising my voice I got her attention again.

The show that was on was... the cooking channel! So the bar for television completely absorbing a child's attention seems quite low :-)

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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So far we've managed to keep our 2 and a bit year old's tv diet to Bluey, Hey Duggee (a bit crack-y but he loves it and it is still crafted and quite tounge-cheek-funny), Trash Truck (a very calm, sedate one on Netflix, useful if you're travelling and can't get CBeebies) and Down on the Farm (a Cbeebies show where kids do stuff on a farm). Occasionally Kiri and Lou too. And some sports sometimes (football, rugby, cyc…

Hey Duggee is lovely. The imagery is on the vivid and trippy side, but the voice acting is top-notch with creative stories. Most importantly, it lacks the deliberate tweaking for engagement Cocomelon does.

At six my son currently has one Bluey episode (in English, simply to emerse him in another language he will pick up in any case later on) and one Shaun the Sheep after school (that's a combined twenty minutes or so). Shaun hits the exact spot in terms of humour for six year olds, and is brilliant with none of the characters actually speaking.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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As a father of two daughters, I'm convinced the writers of Bluey have cameras in my house /s. There are so many times we have had a similar experience to one of the episodes. As my kids are now older than Bluey and Bingo, they still get excited when a new episode is released. We love Bluey in our house.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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My wife and I have a daughter in the demographic of these shows, though she's a little young for Bluey. There's a YouTube (and now Netflix) show called Ms. Rachel for a younger audience that I'd put in the same positive category as Bluey. We probably watch one or two hours of Ms. Rachel videos a day with our daughter. We've got several family friends with a household rule of "no screens at all for kids" who would sco…

Our son has profound hearing loss and he wears Cochlear implants, and I remember very fondly the time we were hooked on Ms Rachel.

She is great and lots of her videos are a blessing for parents with children with hearing impairment as she uses lots of techniques that our Speech and Language therapist used to teach us.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

#100
post #35

I like Bluey but couldn't get my young one to sit through it for a nebulizer. Cocomelon did the trick and I'm very thankful for them for that. Honestly, I don't think it's as garbage as everyone makes it out to be. It's hard trying to find video-form nursery rhymes that aren't weird out there. They have that done well. I really like Bluey but I feel like it's for a much older crowd.

Correct. Try Ms Rachel for your younger child instead of Cocomelon. The very young ones tend to love her.

Agree that Ms Rachel has same effect but with the difference that it teaches kids something.
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