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Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by exploderate »

jisnsm wrote: post #5
colesantiago wrote: post #2

"Firefox needs new revenue streams to be sustainable. New products and services under Mozilla’s umbrella should reflect the same commitment to privacy that defines Mozilla." This is admirable, but how what would Mozilla replace the 85% ( $555M) revenue with by ditching Google? I'm assuming a portion of the 15% of revenue is from Mozilla VPN, MDN Plus, etc and also the pay packets of the executives needs to significan…

Maybe they will find out you don’t need $555M a year to make a web browser. First good step would be to fire that useless CEO.

Can you explain how? Or is your argument "One guy in a basement in Bulgaria could build Firefox for 50 Stotinki."?

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by autoexec »

> Now is the time for Mozilla to take bold steps to reinforce its identity as a privacy-centric nonprofit

Mozilla gave up that identity when it became an ad-tech company whose business model was to sell reports about the internet browsing habits of firefox users to advertisers.

The problem was never Mozilla's dependence Google. The problem is their dependence on the surveillance of internet users.

As far as I know Mozilla hasn't disclosed how much money they spent buying up Anonym, but they'll want a return on their investment. I don't think they're going to abandon it as quickly as they did their ideals.

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by j_maffe »

jisnsm wrote: post #5
colesantiago wrote: post #2

"Firefox needs new revenue streams to be sustainable. New products and services under Mozilla’s umbrella should reflect the same commitment to privacy that defines Mozilla." This is admirable, but how what would Mozilla replace the 85% ( $555M) revenue with by ditching Google? I'm assuming a portion of the 15% of revenue is from Mozilla VPN, MDN Plus, etc and also the pay packets of the executives needs to significan…

Maybe they will find out you don’t need $555M a year to make a web browser. First good step would be to fire that useless CEO.

Mozilla is much larger than the browser.

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by notpushkin »

koshdim wrote: post #6

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As a Russian, I share your enthusiasm in not supporting our regime. Could you share some more details about DuckDuckGo? IIRC they’ve ended their partnership with Yandex already.

Of course, there’s also search engines other than Google and DuckDuckGo, so we have options.

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by notpushkin »

kome wrote: post #7
notpushkin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This won’t happen overnight, of course – in the meantime they’ll have to try and be leaner (which isn’t a bad thing, if you ask me). Basically, I think that’s the only way Firefox even has a fighting chance: the alternatives are (1) always be the 5% browser Google wants it to be or (2) come crashing into the ground if the DOJ does go through with the search payment ban.

sorry, very random, but the effect on your personal website looks great!

Thank you so much! Just don’t leave it running for too long – it’s not the most optimized piece of code I’ve ever written :-)

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by mrweasel »

j_maffe wrote: post #14
jisnsm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they will find out you don’t need $555M a year to make a web browser. First good step would be to fire that useless CEO.

Mozilla is much larger than the browser.

True, but they only have like maybe three products that most people care about: Firefox, Thunderbird (maybe), and the MDN.

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by fsflover »

j_maffe wrote: post #14
jisnsm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they will find out you don’t need $555M a year to make a web browser. First good step would be to fire that useless CEO.

Mozilla is much larger than the browser.

Isn't most of the money goes to the browser anyway?

Re: Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google

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Post by homebrewer »

j_maffe wrote: post #14
jisnsm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they will find out you don’t need $555M a year to make a web browser. First good step would be to fire that useless CEO.

Mozilla is much larger than the browser.

And that's precisely the problem people have been talking about for a decade now. If it was just the browser, maybe it wouldn't have lost 90% of its former market share.
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