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A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Usually creative work and the arts are judged by their ability to move something inside of us to which you can say that crying is a proxy for that. It's effectively saying it's good art.

Right, that's a bit circular though. It isn't a law of nature that humans should do anything that is considered "good art". Why do we want to synthetically manipulate our brains into an emotional reaction, especially in the case of a negative emotion?

there are many things in life which cause crying which are not negative.

crying is absolutely not limited to “a negative emotion.”

if you’re struggling to imagine a crying situation that isn’t negative, i would heavily encourage you to indulge in more art.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Bluey is next-level. S-tier television. It’s wholesome, calm, and entertaining. Episodes like Camping, Baby Race, Cricket, and Onesies are all emotional sucker-punches to the adults watching. (My pet theory, which my wife first suggested: Camping is essentially the Star Trek TNG episode Darmok.)

The newer Bluey episode "The Sign" made me ugly cry.

I felt a lump in my throat as it came to mind while I drove around today with my 4yo son in the back, thinking about how to give him a “good life”.

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I cannot recommend Bluey enough. It’s made me, a 40 year old father of one, ugly cry. And I’m not one to cry from watching a show. If you hate Cocomelon like me, you’ll love Bluey. It’s like the polar opposite of it.

Can you help me understand why you feel that a show inducing ugly crying is desirable?

Better to point you to the vast corpus out there rather than try to rehash it:

https://www.britannica.com/art/catharsis-criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_1965_num_43_1_2556

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Is this a serious question?

Completely serious. I understand it's very ingrained in our culture at this point that this is a thing people do. But, if I decontextualize enough mentally, it starts to feel quite strange: manipulating one's brain into having a negative emotional reaction.

You’re not being well understood here, but I do this too, and have done — with everything — all my life.

The answer is ultimately that if you deconstruct and logically analyse any particular human activity it either ruins the fun and/or makes you realise how primitive and dark most forms of entertainment are. People like being emotional, for whatever reason.

I like the explanation that says it’s about learning, though. Learning somehow feels intrinsically good.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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Blueys great, my kid loses his shit when the shows on. Its also interesting seeing a female character marketed to kids as a segment rather than just young girls which isnt that common. My son is still under 2, so he prefers other low intensity shows like Mini Kids and Night Garden. The way he gets into Mini Kids is insane, I havent seen cocomelon but I am betting he would get drawn too far into that. Mini Kids sounds…

Bluey has the advantages of being dogs - Bandit and Bluey are identical except in size.

They’re also short episodes so they don’t feel too involved.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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So far we've managed to keep our 2 and a bit year old's tv diet to Bluey, Hey Duggee (a bit crack-y but he loves it and it is still crafted and quite tounge-cheek-funny), Trash Truck (a very calm, sedate one on Netflix, useful if you're travelling and can't get CBeebies) and Down on the Farm (a Cbeebies show where kids do stuff on a farm). Occasionally Kiri and Lou too. And some sports sometimes (football, rugby, cycling, F1). I love the sports as it's distracting but he also doesn't care that much and loses interest. Can be enough to get a break but he won't binge like Duggee or Bluey.

Yes, lucky we're in the UK so have CBeebies available, but there's no reason to not screen and curate your kids media diet. I don't understand people who just let their toddlers consume crap on YT.

Re: A look at the creative process behind Bluey and Cocomelon (2024)

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How do you model the character learning lessons if they’re already perfect?

There is no need for explicit, spelled out lessons. Also conflicts can arise externally, and flawless people can solve them. That still can be an example, can't it. Also Bluey indeed bullies their father. He acts like he hates it every time, but based on how Chilli escapes most of the time, they must really hate it. I don't remember Bluey called out for that, only rewarded.

Once you realize that 70% of the shows are basically “Dad distracts the kids after work so Mom can get dinner ready” or similar, it makes sense. Bandit lays down the law when he needs to, but most of the time he’s just playing.

You’ll notice that he’s much more concerned with how Bluey plays with Bingo than he is with how she plays with him. He’s big, he can take it.

Faceytime is a good example of “kid is naughty and gets in actual trouble”.

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