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Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by bloomingkales » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 7:57 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #13

> They are designed to help prevent our models from generating harmful content, i.e., > [...] > Sexually explicit content Dear tech companies. Sexually explicit content is not harmful. Why are you all run by puritans? I don't even want to make edgy porn, I just want to be treated like an adult.

You can discuss something kosher and have the LLM misinterpret it as something sexually explicit. Yours or their logs will now have all of this miscommunication, and this is a liability. Using models that can’t generate this content even by accident is good legal decision for many. Same goes for images. Stay safe!

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by pzo » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 7:58 AM UTC

would be good to see how gemma 3:4b compare to phi4-mini

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by alekandreev » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 7:59 AM UTC

Greetings from the Gemma team! We just got Gemma 3 out of the oven and are super excited to show it to you! Please drop any questions here and we'll answer ASAP.

(Opinions our own and not of Google DeepMind.)

PS we are hiring: https://boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6590957

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:01 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #13

> They are designed to help prevent our models from generating harmful content, i.e., > [...] > Sexually explicit content Dear tech companies. Sexually explicit content is not harmful. Why are you all run by puritans? I don't even want to make edgy porn, I just want to be treated like an adult.

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Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:02 AM UTC

logicchains wrote: post #23

charcircuit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generating sexually explicit content can cause reputational damage or have legal risk. Not generating such content is something that many developers are looking for. There is people who may want such harmful content and other players can cover such a niche.

That's a bullshit excuse. The Chinese model creators live in a totalitarian dictatorship where porn is banned and the creators could be arbitrarily jailed, but even they don't go to such effort to censor their open source models (there's censorship on their hosting websites but minimal if you run the models locally).

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Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by chickenbig » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:03 AM UTC

In Switzerland isn't it customary to round the food bill up to the nearest 10?

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by gundmc » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:03 AM UTC

What do companies like Meta and Google gain from releasing open models? Is it just reputational? Attractive to top AI talent?

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by xnx » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:04 AM UTC

Linking to he announcement (which links to his PDF) would probably be more useful.

Introducing Gemma 3: The most capable model you can run on a single GPU or TPU

https://blog.google/technology/developers/gemma-3/

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by LeoPanthera » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:04 AM UTC

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #27

LeoPanthera wrote: post #13

> They are designed to help prevent our models from generating harmful content, i.e., > [...] > Sexually explicit content Dear tech companies. Sexually explicit content is not harmful. Why are you all run by puritans? I don't even want to make edgy porn, I just want to be treated like an adult.

The model is open weight, I'll bet someone or the other will abliterate it soon. Maybe you want to do the honors? I have an abliterated Llama running on a server shared with friends and it works great.

This only works until it doesn't. Start with a model that simply hasn't been trained on anything your shareholders find objectionable, and there will be nothing to reveal with abliteration.

Re: Gemma 3 Technical Report [pdf]

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Post by LeoPanthera » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 8:05 AM UTC

thunkingdeep wrote: post #29

LeoPanthera wrote: post #13

> They are designed to help prevent our models from generating harmful content, i.e., > [...] > Sexually explicit content Dear tech companies. Sexually explicit content is not harmful. Why are you all run by puritans? I don't even want to make edgy porn, I just want to be treated like an adult.

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This is a false dichotomy. We can make tech for adults, and children, either with optional settings, filters, or simply multiple versions, managed by their parents or guardians. It's not tech's responsibility to raise every child.