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Re: New tools for building agents

#42
Is it just me, or is what OpenAI is really lacking is a billing API/platform?

As an engineer, I have to manage the cost/service ratio manually, making sure I charge enough to handle my traffic, while enforcing/managing/policing the usage.

Additionally, there are customers who already pay for OpenAI, so the value add for them is less, since they are paying twice for the underlying capabilities.

If OpenAPI had a billing API/platform ala AppStore/PlayStore, I have multiple price points matched to OpenAI usage limits (and maybe configurable profit margins).

For customers that don't have an existing relationship with me, OpenAI could support a Netflix/YouTube-style profit-sharing system, where OpenAI customers can try out and use products integrated with the billing platform/API, and my products would receive payment in accordance with customer usage...

Re: New tools for building agents

#43
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swyx here. we got some preview and time with the API/DX team to ask FAQs about all the new APIs. https://latent.space/p/openai-agents-platform main fun part - since responses are stored for free by default now, how can we abuse the Responses API as a database :) other fun qtns that a HN crew might enjoy: - hparams for websearch - depth/breadth of search for making your own DIY Deep Research - now that OAI is offering…

What is a "qtns"?

Re: New tools for building agents

#44
post #41

We handle over 1M requests per month using the Assistant API on https://rispose.com which apparently will get depreciated mid 2026. Should we move to the new API?

Eventually, yes. The addressed Assistant API near the end of the the video: They say there will be a transition path, once they built all Assistant features into the new API, and ample time to take action.

Re: New tools for building agents

#45
post #29

I wonder why they phased out Pydantic in structured output for the Responses API.

(Shameless plug) I worked on something for anyone else wanting to get structured outputs from LLMs in a model agnostic way (Including Open AI models): https://github.com/inferablehq/l1m

Re: New tools for building agents

#46
post #4

swyx here. we got some preview and time with the API/DX team to ask FAQs about all the new APIs. https://latent.space/p/openai-agents-platform main fun part - since responses are stored for free by default now, how can we abuse the Responses API as a database :) other fun qtns that a HN crew might enjoy: - hparams for websearch - depth/breadth of search for making your own DIY Deep Research - now that OAI is offering…

What is a "qtns"?

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Re: New tools for building agents

#47
post #4

swyx here. we got some preview and time with the API/DX team to ask FAQs about all the new APIs. https://latent.space/p/openai-agents-platform main fun part - since responses are stored for free by default now, how can we abuse the Responses API as a database :) other fun qtns that a HN crew might enjoy: - hparams for websearch - depth/breadth of search for making your own DIY Deep Research - now that OAI is offering…

What is a "qtns"?

Questions.

Re: New tools for building agents

#48
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swyx here. we got some preview and time with the API/DX team to ask FAQs about all the new APIs. https://latent.space/p/openai-agents-platform main fun part - since responses are stored for free by default now, how can we abuse the Responses API as a database :) other fun qtns that a HN crew might enjoy: - hparams for websearch - depth/breadth of search for making your own DIY Deep Research - now that OAI is offering…

for anyone that likes the Agents SDK, but doesn't want their framework attached to OpenAI, we're really liking PydanticAI[0]. 0 - https://ai.pydantic.dev/

Openai SDK docs:

> Notably, our SDK is compatible with any model providers that support the OpenAI Chat Completions API format.

so you can use with everything, not only OpenAI?

Re: New tools for building agents

#49
post #42

Is it just me, or is what OpenAI is really lacking is a billing API/platform? As an engineer, I have to manage the cost/service ratio manually, making sure I charge enough to handle my traffic, while enforcing/managing/policing the usage. Additionally, there are customers who already pay for OpenAI, so the value add for them is less, since they are paying twice for the underlying capabilities. If OpenAPI had a billin…

One, if you charge above API costs, you should never police usage (so long as you're transparent with customers). Why would you need to cap usage if you're pricing correctly? (Rate limits aside)

Two, yes, many people will pay $20/mo for ChatGPT and then also pay for a product that under the hood uses OpenAI API. If you're worried about your product's value not being differentiated from ChatGPT, I'd say you have a product problem moreso than OpenAI has a billing model problem.

Re: New tools for building agents

#50
I'm impressed by the advances in Computer Use mentioned here and this got me wondering - is this already mature enough to be utilized for usability testing? Would I be right to assume that in general, a UI that is more difficult for AI to navigate is likely to also be relatively difficult for humans, and that it's a signal that it should be simplified/improved in some way?
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