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Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

jobs_throwaway wrote: post #24

> While the University has emphasized the positive impact the projects will have on the local economy, some residents are concerned about rising rent and how much benefit will reach the community as opposed to investors. What a non-issue. You have this massive development that's going to benefit your community and you're concerned because the people who actually contributed to it are going to benefit as well? The ent…

It's not far from Englewood and New City (Back of the Yards / Canaryville). Some of the worst areas anywhere (although waaaay nicer than when I lived in Chicago 30 years ago).

There was a race riot there in 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by asteinhart »

Steuard wrote: post #39
asteinhart wrote: post #25

this is mine! thanks for the share. code for the project is all open source here: https://github.com/chicagomaroon/data-visualizations/tree/ma... . this was my first larger custom story project. maplibre for the map, waypoints for scroller helper and the rest just vanilla js/html/css. hosted on github pages. i have another project that has lots of other examples of cool viz i like (filter to about visualizations) htt…

Is there a place to submit an issue with the data? The final map makes it look like a bunch of properties around the neighborhood were purchased by the University between 2004 and 2005. But I recognize one of them (5125 S. Kenwood, just south of Hyde Park Blvd/51st St.) as my first grad school apartment: I lived there throughout the 1998-99 academic year, and it was definitely a university-owned/managed building at t…

yes, can send an email to data@chicagomaroon.com! there are a chunk of apartments that were very hard to get exact dates for so a few are approx but would love to improve the accuracy.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by qingcharles »

tdb7893 wrote: post #16
costcopizza wrote: post #12

Thanks for this. I have an impending move to Chicago and really haven't connected with the place the 6 or so times I've been the last year. Maybe some history will help.

I just moved away from Chicago but it took me a few years to appreciate the city (and I never found visiting that compelling). I miss it now though, I think the best way to learn to appreciate the city is to go out and do things in the city and find the stuff you like. There is tons of great music, food, art museums, shows (especially improv, idk if the IO Theater is back running but the Improv Shakespeare that they…

I just moved out from Chicago. Don't miss it. Been to hundreds of big cities, Chicago is weak. There's not much to do for tourists compared to other cities. There is a decent theatre scene. Deep dish pizza is good. Lakefront can be nice.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by qingcharles »

One thing to note is that crimes committed on any of this property are usually hit with an "aggravating factor", because of it being a school, and can double the sentencing for a crime.

I seem to remember a homeless fellow who used a key to extract some change from a vending machine that was surprisingly on UoC property and got a 12-year sentence.

Also, not to be confused with the confusingly similar University of Illinois Chicago.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by HDThoreaun »

FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #41
jobs_throwaway wrote: post #24

> While the University has emphasized the positive impact the projects will have on the local economy, some residents are concerned about rising rent and how much benefit will reach the community as opposed to investors. What a non-issue. You have this massive development that's going to benefit your community and you're concerned because the people who actually contributed to it are going to benefit as well? The ent…

It's not far from Englewood and New City (Back of the Yards / Canaryville). Some of the worst areas anywhere (although waaaay nicer than when I lived in Chicago 30 years ago). There was a race riot there in 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919

Even closer to woodlawn and the infamous o block, arguably the birthplace of Chicago drill. Blocks away from campus

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by thaumasiotes »

qingcharles wrote: post #44

One thing to note is that crimes committed on any of this property are usually hit with an "aggravating factor", because of it being a school, and can double the sentencing for a crime. I seem to remember a homeless fellow who used a key to extract some change from a vending machine that was surprisingly on UoC property and got a 12-year sentence. Also, not to be confused with the confusingly similar University of Il…

> I seem to remember a homeless fellow who used a key to extract some change from a vending machine that was surprisingly on UoC property and got a 12-year sentence.

Well, there are two problems there:

- Being in a school is not an aggravating factor (in reality; I'm not making any claim about the law) for that crime;

- Stealing change from a vending machine shouldn't involve a 6-year sentence.

But neither of those really undermines the general concept of crimes on the property "usually" including an aggravating factor for the location.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by giraffe_lady »

jobs_throwaway wrote: post #24

> While the University has emphasized the positive impact the projects will have on the local economy, some residents are concerned about rising rent and how much benefit will reach the community as opposed to investors. What a non-issue. You have this massive development that's going to benefit your community and you're concerned because the people who actually contributed to it are going to benefit as well? The ent…

When you start talking about actual human people in terms of "getting rid" of an "anti-social element" you know you've got an issue figured out and are definitely on the right side of it.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by qingcharles »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #46
qingcharles wrote: post #44

One thing to note is that crimes committed on any of this property are usually hit with an "aggravating factor", because of it being a school, and can double the sentencing for a crime. I seem to remember a homeless fellow who used a key to extract some change from a vending machine that was surprisingly on UoC property and got a 12-year sentence. Also, not to be confused with the confusingly similar University of Il…

> I seem to remember a homeless fellow who used a key to extract some change from a vending machine that was surprisingly on UoC property and got a 12-year sentence. Well, there are two problems there: - Being in a school is not an aggravating factor (in reality; I'm not making any claim about the law) for that crime; - Stealing change from a vending machine shouldn't involve a 6-year sentence. But neither of those r…

It became a test case of whether there is a limit to punishments for crimes. Is a life sentence for littering constitutionally legal if there is a valid statute that says it is?

The courts eventually up-ended the person's sentence somewhat and reduced it to the minimum available, 6 years. I don't know whether the person had already served over that time before his sentence was adjusted, but I would hazard a guess that he had.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by PopAlongKid »

jobs_throwaway wrote: post #24

> While the University has emphasized the positive impact the projects will have on the local economy, some residents are concerned about rising rent and how much benefit will reach the community as opposed to investors. What a non-issue. You have this massive development that's going to benefit your community and you're concerned because the people who actually contributed to it are going to benefit as well? The ent…

>I've lived on one of the streets mentioned in the article and its hard to overstate how shockingly dangerous the area is

Just anecdata. I had a family member living there for the six years, several addresses including their condo on Drexel Ave, one block from Cottage Grove (more or less the western boundary of campus proper). Their first child was born there, mom often went on long walks with the stroller to parks, etc with no problems. I visited several times, never had a problem. I walked to The Cove at night for a few beers, Sister Sledge on the jukebox was a conversation starter. Reggie's at the Beach (63rd St.) was a nice place, easy parking.

Every large city has "dangerous" areas, Hyde Park probably has fewer per capita than most.

Re: Mapping the University of Chicago's 135-year expansion into Hyde Park and beyond

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Post by madcaptenor »

wbl wrote: post #15
madcaptenor wrote: post #13

This is great. My only complaint is that I have literally never been to that part of Chicago, which obviously isn't their fault. I would be fascinated to see this for the urban universities I'm personally familiar with.

Go to the museum of science and industry. And Powells. And the Oriental institute.

Thanks! Those all look good. I live in Atlanta and have done quick trips to Chicago in the past - there are plenty of flights.
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