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Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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It seems the first few batches of YC were VERY successful. But, the number of successful YC companies I can think of from the last 10 years of batches is very minimal despite them investing in thousands of companies. Makes you wonder, does the funding landscape need a new YC level disruption because YC seems to have peeked, return wise (not hype wise). Maybe AI might be their saving grace if everything works out

I'm always surprised people just seem to discount timing.

The mid/late 00s came with the rise of "Web 2.0" and mobile that was a gigantic technological shakeup, and YC was definitely in "the right place at the right time", and their Web 1.0 pedigree and expertise transitioned perfectly to these new technologies. Importantly, these technologies required relatively little capital for new startups because all the infrastructure in terms on the Internet, GPS, mobile, etc. had already been built.

I'd just argue that in the past 10 years there simply hasn't been nearly the "greenfield" tech landscape that existed in the mid 00s. AI obviously has been a tech sea change, but so far the contours of that change just look much harder to monetize. The frontier models are becoming more and more commoditized, and everyone else is just trying to figure out how not to get shoehorned as "just an OpenAI/Anthropic wrapper". Looks like there may be some winners that are really putting all pieces together in an attractive package (Cursor and Glean come to mind), and it's fair to wonder why YC doesn't have one of these "AI app winners" (and maybe they do, or will, I don't know), but in general, I think there is just nothing like the opportunity there was in the late 00s/early 10s to gobble up a big part of the new tech landscape.

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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It seems the first few batches of YC were VERY successful. But, the number of successful YC companies I can think of from the last 10 years of batches is very minimal despite them investing in thousands of companies. Makes you wonder, does the funding landscape need a new YC level disruption because YC seems to have peeked, return wise (not hype wise). Maybe AI might be their saving grace if everything works out

I think all the recent AI slop dominated batches will be their downfall in 2-3 years time when they all become junk and the AI-hype is over.

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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I do think YC has become chasers of the latest trend rather than creating the trend. That is why most of the successes are skewed early like Reddit and a bunch of other companies which defined the internet. Now they have gone from crypto grifting companies and AI hyped companies and it really seems that the a-level players are missing. Or maybe it's just a matter of smaller teams and focus and care. I think now I see…

Well it’s a function of those that apply and are accepted, and pitches are going to reflect the current hype. YC occasionally puts out a call for applications in areas they think are interesting but perhaps they haven’t seen many compelling pitches for. Have they recently put out a call for specific areas of interest?

Except now their call for startups are focusing on tech solutions (use LLMS to do x), instead of focusing on problems that need solving. They're now doing exactly what they've railed against, solutions in search of problems

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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post #23

It seems the first few batches of YC were VERY successful. But, the number of successful YC companies I can think of from the last 10 years of batches is very minimal despite them investing in thousands of companies. Makes you wonder, does the funding landscape need a new YC level disruption because YC seems to have peeked, return wise (not hype wise). Maybe AI might be their saving grace if everything works out

I think all the recent AI slop dominated batches will be their downfall in 2-3 years time when they all become junk and the AI-hype is over.

Ya that is my fear. Just like the whole crypto dominated batches. My fear is Garry Tan is leading YC and he falls for every single "the current thing" in the book. I remember when he was pushing for so much of the crypto stuff and all of that evaporated to nothing.

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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A) Very true! B) peaked* :) C) Can you think of any tech companies from the last 10 years that were successful? The answer is ultimately "they exist, but the victory condition is to be bought by MANGA, so you don't remember them even if you heard about them in the first place." EDIT: to add more context, this is a great post: https://jaredheyman.medium.com/on-the-176-annual-return-of-a... The TL;DR is that Stripe & A…

> Can you think of any tech companies from the last 10 years that were successful? OpenAI and Anthropic come to mind

10 years, not weeks.

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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It seems the first few batches of YC were VERY successful. But, the number of successful YC companies I can think of from the last 10 years of batches is very minimal despite them investing in thousands of companies. Makes you wonder, does the funding landscape need a new YC level disruption because YC seems to have peeked, return wise (not hype wise). Maybe AI might be their saving grace if everything works out

I do think YC has become chasers of the latest trend rather than creating the trend. That is why most of the successes are skewed early like Reddit and a bunch of other companies which defined the internet. Now they have gone from crypto grifting companies and AI hyped companies and it really seems that the a-level players are missing. Or maybe it's just a matter of smaller teams and focus and care. I think now I see…

> That is why most of the successes are skewed early like Reddit and a bunch of other companies which defined the internet.

Reddit rode the wave with zero innovation. Really what is Reddit? Message boards predated Reddit, which was predated by Usenet, predated by BBS. Somewhere in there were Yahoo! chat forums.

All they did was colocate message boards in one place, and allowed freewheeling moderation. That's it. They got lucky, made millions with zero new ideas. People connected the same way on AOL 15 years before.

Like most Silicon Valley innovations, you just reuse an existing idea or resell polished turds as new.

Re: Happy 20th birthday, Y Combinator

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Jessica is my hero. Paul is a guiding force. Every effort has some defect but it’s intention and effort which matters. World would be a very different place without YC. Thank you all !

>> but it’s intention and effort which matters.

I think I understand what you're saying, but this is a very dangerous generality. I think the HOW matters more than the intent.

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