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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by radicalriddler »

ethan_smith wrote: post #729
bearjaws wrote: post #4

Nobody could have possibly seen it coming that Google would abuse its market position to their own benefit... I migrated off Chrome as soon as this BS story about improving privacy, a joke coming from Google. Then the excuse was "well it improves performance", which they could easily do by marking extensions as low performance. If Google wanted to improve this they have an entire search engine where they could re-ran…

Been using uBlock Origin for so long I forgot what the raw internet actually looks like. Spent 3 minutes without an ad blocker last week when setting up a new machine and nearly lost my mind. Google knows exactly what they're taking away from us - a usable web. They've just decided that our sanity is less valuable than their ad revenue. https://programmerhumor.io/programming-memes/browsing-withou... I feel really bad…

Yep. It isn't just a less usable web, it's a less safe web. But anything for those sweet ad dollars.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by makeitdouble »

phito wrote: post #51

I hear so many people IRL complaining about this. I tell them to switch to firefox, that the adblockers still work there, and they still won't switch to it because they are "used to chrome". I really feel like google won this battle. People will through a lot of abuse just to maintain their habits.

Posting this from firefox: most enterprise tools are only tested under Chrome, and many will break with no recourse when used on firefox.

And it's worse with extensions. For instance right now the OneLogin extension is dead on firefox, and while it's a crappy service, it's cheap and enterprise friendly...so employees in the contracting companies will only be able to log to corporate resources through Chrome.

It's not as hellish as the IE6 situation was, but boy we're pretty quickly approaching it.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by bichiliad »

csomar wrote: post #777
justsid wrote: post #755

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What boggles my mind is the fact that surely people working for Google also use Chrome. Are they not up in arms internally because of how awful the web is without ad blocker? I have the same experience as you, every time I set up a new machine or watch friends/relatives browse the web, it just blows my mind how bad the unfiltered internet is.

> Are they not up in arms internally because of how awful the web is without ad blocker? You realize these people pay check depend on that, right?

Employees can disagree with their employers.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by AceyMan »

csomar wrote: post #777
justsid wrote: post #755

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What boggles my mind is the fact that surely people working for Google also use Chrome. Are they not up in arms internally because of how awful the web is without ad blocker? I have the same experience as you, every time I set up a new machine or watch friends/relatives browse the web, it just blows my mind how bad the unfiltered internet is.

> Are they not up in arms internally because of how awful the web is without ad blocker? You realize these people pay check depend on that, right?

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by hellotomyrars »

roywiggins wrote: post #697
jonas21 wrote: post #664

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It's a revenue share deal where Google pays Apple 36% of the search revenue they get from Safari users [1]. In other words, Google pays Apple ~$20B per year to be default search engine because they make ~$53B in revenue from those searches. This is profitable for both Apple and Google -- no "wildly illegal under-the-table measures" required. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/14/apple-gets-36percent-of-goog...

How much would Google even lose if Apple didn't make Google the default search engine? People would almost certainly just use Google anyway. If Apple switched to Bing most people would use it once, get pissed off, and then switch it back to Google. It's not that weird that people are a bit suspicious that it's really worth Google $20B/year.

I couldn’t possibly disagree more. I’ve always worked with end users and I can say with confidence that the majority of people wouldn’t change it or more accurately wouldn’t feel like putting in the effort/dealing with the hassle of changing it, minor as it may be. Also a non-trivial segment of the population most likely wouldn’t be aware of that it is even an option.

The power of the default is just that, they it is the default.

Also Apple themself has only one incentive which is to get the best deal for themselves. Is Microsoft willing to offer more money than Google? The evidence points to no.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by darepublic »

Chrome has been randomly turning off my ublock origin and I've had to manually turn it back on. Don't you take away my adblock or you'll get the boot! I am willing to escalate this indefinitely, to the point of just not going on to any part of the internet with ads.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by culi »

crazygringo wrote: post #762
culi wrote: post #735

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They can still block elements from appearing on your browser but in the background the network calls are still being made. That means you are no longer being protected from tracking and your internet is once again being slowed down by the loading of ads

That's not true. The requests themselves are blocked: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/d...

Lol yeah with a max number of rules being 50

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...

But declarativeNetRequest is the alternative to the webRequest API which Chrome is removing. Using declarativeNetRequest means you have to rely on static rules instead of the dynamic logic that the webRequest API allowed. This is extremely trivial to bypass. So much so that it's basically nothing at all. Especially when you take into account the max ruleset sizes

Also in Chrome (and Chrome only) any images or iframes blocked are simply collapsed

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by culi »

crazygringo wrote: post #763
culi wrote: post #733

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If you have fast internet you will probably not really notice the difference The difference between v2 and v3 is that v3 will no longer allow uBlock to modify network calls. Previously one of the big savings of a adblocker is they can stop the calls from being made AT ALL. That means less tracking AND less of your internet bandwidth being used Both v2 and v3 can block the actual elements from your screen so you will…

That's wrong. V3 doesn't allow network calls to be modified , for privacy reasons. It still allows them to be blocked , which is how the adblocking works in the first place. Contrary to what you say, v3 does block the tracking in the ad request as well as the bandwidth. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/d...

It only allows them to be blocked with static rulesets. And these rulesets have a maximum size of 50. There's no way this is large enough to cover all your websites. It's also trivial for an anti-adblock script to try a few different urls until it finds one that isn't in your static ruleset

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by Iwan-Zotow »

alluro2 wrote: post #359
haswell wrote: post #124

After 10+ years as a primary browser, I've been 100% off of Chrome for about 1.5 years now as part of a broader effort to de-Google my life, and things have been going well. It's interesting to notice how much my internal feelings have shifted over the years. There have been a few rare occasions where I had to use a Chromium-based browser, and I felt the same "ick" I used to feel when forced to use Internet Explorer…

You've voiced my sentiment exactly. I really wish Firefox was more at the forefront of innovation and development, and there's a lot to criticise Mozilla for, but I wouldn't change it back for Chromium for anything. I have a completely custom minimal layout with address bar and tabs at the bottom, all the extensions I need, and I don't notice the performance or compatibility differences almost ever, with few rare exc…

> but I wouldn't change it back for Chromium for anything.

Not sure I understand the statement - what are you using?

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by culi »

6SixTy wrote: post #760
culi wrote: post #738

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AbBlockers work on iOS too. Safari/WebKit has no plans to deprecate Manifest V2

I don't doubt you are incorrect, but that's a response for a different conversation altogether.

You said "only the Android version"

iOS users are able to download browser extensions as well. They just have to be for WebKit. Which there are plenty of.

The iOS version of Firefox uses WebKit under the hood (for now at least)

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